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    Posted: 26 March 2004 at 3:15pm
This needs to be in the Upgrades and Customizing, because the Consumer Products Commission determined that a primary cause of the valve coming loose may be an improper anti-siphon install.

CPSC Issues New Safety Warning for Paintball Guns

"It is critical that the valve be re- installed with the appropriate adhesive and the proper torque."

BTW, Thanks, but "KirkWade" Gets the credit for the Link.
Please read, and tell everyone you know.

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Good job Kevin, It is good for anyone about to get an anti siphon to read this! In fact, when I got an anti siphon installed in my tank it was unscrewing from the valve!! I took it off the gun with a wrench (which I don't recomend anyone does, just take it right to your pro shop) and took it to a pro shop.

I think this should be stickeyed for anyone to put a siphon tube in their tank to see.



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yea good job with this post get the word out and i saw it on the news to.  I heard two people died it is very sad.
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I must admit... I thought this was another rumor (good job, Kevin!!!)
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i was just going to get one tomorrow
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That's sad that the people died, and how it's unsafe, but how uncareful must these people have been?! this recently happened to me, over at my good friends house, we  had finished testing my flatline, and as I went to take off my tank, I noticed ( very obviously I might add) that the copper part was not turning, so when I noticed,( It was very hard to miss Co2 was flying everywhere...) I let it leak all the way out, then took it to my local proshop, problem solved, no more issues with the tanks.
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Originally posted by Kevin Z Kevin Z wrote:

Consumer Products Commission determined that the primary cause of the valve coming loose was an improper anti-siphon install.


Even thou I agree that this is the most likely reason, you are misquoting the article. Correct quotes are very important especially when posting to a public forum. With what’s going on with paintball accidents at this time someone may pass that misquote on to other less knowledge people, like moms and dads that don't know paintball. This is NOT a dis or a flame.

Originally posted by CPSC CPSC wrote:

Even though our investigation is not complete, we believe it is urgent to provide this new safety message about the valve detaching from the canister while unscrewing it from the paintball gun.”

CPSC also recommends that people make sure that any modifications to the paintball gun or the CO2 canister are done properly. For example, installing anti-siphon tubes involves removing and re- installing the canister valve.


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Great post. Due to the fact that a mother was killed not long ago cause of a tank valve coming off the tank and hitting her in the back of the head. Sad and now that the word is out it can stop from trgedyies like this happening again. TWO THUMBS WAY UP THERE.

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I'll stick with my nitro, but i feel sad for those two people
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Originally posted by TippyManic32 TippyManic32 wrote:

I'll stick with my nitro, but i feel sad for those two people


OOOOOOHHHHHHH baby, unscrew the valve off a 4000 PSI nitro tank and it will take someones head off in the next county. not just the next table.

I think you should take the same precaution.
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i just installed 2 anti siphons on both my 20's. i
used blue loctite on one. i just tightened it a lot, my
torque wrench doesnt fit on smart parts valves. and i
used red loctite on the other one. the blue one held
up fine. i didnt get the one with the red loctite filled
yet. i sopposed it will be fine. red loctite is pretty
strong stuff
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Yea you should have used high strength loctite(red) for both of them.

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Holy crap, that's for people taking shortcuts, that'd be sweet if they were brass eagle tanks so they had to god out of business or something ;)
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this doesnt have to do with anti-siphon, but can the parts come apart on nitro tanks too?
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Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

this doesnt have to do with anti-siphon, but can the parts come apart on nitro tanks too?

It has a regulator on the tank, just like a CO2 tank does, so yes. However, there is no reason to take apart an HPA tank for something like an anti-siphon, as it would serve no purpose. The only reason one would have to take the reg off of an HPA tank that I can think of is to replace the internal O-ring. But, to answer your question, it still could happen. It would be a lot more purposeful, and a much larger mistake to do it, but it is still plausible.



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When installing an anti-siphon tank, you have to take the valve off. Reinstallation of the valve is the part that you would be most likely to mess up and that would result in a big time safety hazard!

So what is the proper torque that you are supposed to put on the valve? I didn't see it there.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote skeltonjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 April 2004 at 3:51pm
you really have to be careful about what you do with or to your tanks ive had a few 12grams blow up in my face when i was using my Zeus Pistol and the valve exploded on one of my 20oz that i used to my A-5 you really cant be too careful
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Doesn't HPA tnaks have a pin even b4 the reg?
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