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    Posted: 24 March 2004 at 2:21pm

Gas Canister Problems Lead To Paintball Gun Warning

POSTED: 9:51 a.m. EST March 24, 2004

The U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission says that people need to be aware of a problem that can cause the carbon dioxide canisters that power paintball guns to become deadly projectiles.

The agency says two deaths were caused by carbon dioxide canisters flying off paintball guns.

Users should know that the brass- or nickel-plated valve that connects to the canister must not be unscrewed from the canister. This valve must stay secured and rotate with the CO2 canister when removing it from the gun.

In both of the deaths, the brass valve unscrewed from the canister, letting it fly free.

"We believe it is urgent to provide this new safety message about the valve detaching from the canister while unscrewing it from the paintball gun," said CPSC chairman Hal Stratton.

The group offered safety tips for paintball gun users:

  • Make sure the brass or nickel-plated canister valve is securely attached to the canister, rotates with the canister and does not unscrew from the canister.
  • The canister assembly should unscrew from the paintball gun in about three or four full turns; if you finish the fourth full turn and the canister is not unscrewed, stop. Take it to a professional.
  • Some people use paint or nail polish to mark the brass valve and the CO2 canister so they can see that the valve and the canister rotate together while being removed from the gun.

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Some of this is common sense.  The valves NEED to be Lock Tite'ed in the tank.  I like the nail polish idea...

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nail polish idea is good, I'd better check mine....
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somone said you got thorw them away after 15 years if so thats is a waste of money but if is to safe i'll spend the money

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If theyre going to issue this big warning, why not warn about what CAUSES that problem, idiots working on their tank and not using loctite on the valve threads...
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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

If theyre going to issue this big warning, why not warn about what CAUSES that problem, idiots working on their tank and not using loctite on the valve threads...


Yeah.  The other day I was reading an article in the paper and it mentioned how a kids tank flew off the gun, and hit someone in the head, killing her.  But it said it flew off while he was disasembling the gun.  Who would take their gun apart with the air on  Some people are idiots.
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Quite frankly I think part of the problem is the fact that many people do not understand the sport we play...and more so they do not understand the equipment that we use. The media writes their reports, but they do not HELP the public, they just hurt the image of paintball.

If the media in their reports included WHY something like this might happen, the media would be helping the sport, and in turn helping society.
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unfortunately that's just the way it goes... a few idiots screw up and suddenly u'r faced with an inseparable blemish (sports, video gaming, work, EVERYTHING)

if society had any common sense to begin w/, they'd realize two very important facts:
1) the media primarily reports bad news, hence the saying- "no news, is good news"
2) in the hands of an idiot, ANYTHING can be dangerous (pencils, hammers, staplers, pocket knifes, ANYTHING)
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I hate people who play this and dont know what there doing and actually can hurt someone!

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In addition to that warning for paintball players, I think we also need to inform our friends and families, anybody that is around or has access to our equipment. I don't think it's a big problem, family members messing with equipment, but I would take no chances. Let them know to take care around the tanks.

Don't be alarmist about it, but let them know to exercise caution. Cover your bases whether or not your tanks have been altered.

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What do you expect to happen when you give idiots high pressure gas canisters?

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Originally posted by Chicken Wang Chicken Wang wrote:

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

If theyre going to issue this big warning, why not warn about what CAUSES that problem, idiots working on their tank and not using loctite on the valve threads...


Yeah.  The other day I was reading an article in the paper and it mentioned how a kids tank flew off the gun, and hit someone in the head, killing her.  But it said it flew off while he was disasembling the gun.  Who would take their gun apart with the air on  Some people are idiots.

i heard about that too supposedly it was some kid at his birthday party...that girl that got hit in the head was his mother, he killed his mom on his birthday

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can you imagine what would happen if it was an HPA  tank? you think the co2 tank could make a mess try 63ci/4500psi flying off.....that would suck ace

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how stupid to people have to be once youve tured the tank more that 3 times around you got a prob. what is evryone smoking
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I would say it is ignorance, not stupidity.
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Originally posted by tippy a-5 guy tippy a-5 guy wrote:

can you imagine what would happen if it was an HPA  tank? you think the co2 tank could make a mess try 73ci/4500psi flying off.....that would suck ace

What about like a... lets say a.. 114/5000?

(I don't know if they make 5000 psi tanks anymore, but they used to)

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I am glad this was posted to let people like that don't know of things like this. Of the unscrewig number i will definately put fingernail polish on mine.
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Originally posted by spyderjunke spyderjunke wrote:

somone said you got thorw them away after 15 years if so thats is a waste of money but if is to safe i'll spend the money

dude you could check with a co2 dealer ( welding supply ) and see if they can hydro test them .....   if they do you might get to use them from now on.... i know that steel air bottle ( holds 2216 psi. ) in the fire service can be used as long as it passes hydrostatic testing ( for the firefighting services) also if you are not near a welding supply store you might want to check with you local fire dept. they might give you a company name and phone number , so you can check with that company if they would test you bottles

as of 05/13/2004    heres a new bit of info for people near MOUNT AIRY ,NC a company call action fire & saftey inc. will hydro your CO2 tanks also the fee is $12 thats what the service man told me today



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Threads exposed between the bottle and the valve should be a big indicator that you are unscrewing the wrong thing. Though the two marks to keep aligned is a good idea. Although you'll probably get some moron who puts both marks on the tank and sees nothing wrong when he unscrews the valve. Eh, anyway, I usually drain my tank before detatching it anyway. I don't trust 3000psi hanging around in my room and filling it back up is so cheap it might as well be free (my supervisor has his own scuba tank and yes we took the time to get trained by a professional airsmith who also paintballs frequently).
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Originally posted by Village Idiot! Village Idiot! wrote:

What do you expect to happen when you give idiots high pressure gas canisters?

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yea but people die all the time from different things why does all of a sudden a tank flies off and kills 2 ppl its sad but nothing to flip out about
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