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    Posted: 19 September 2013 at 4:55am
My mate used to live in a block of flats that consisted of one building with 3 identical stairwells basically splitting the bock into 3 towers. Quite soon after he moved in I popped out after a few refreshments to go to the shop for some refreshments. 

I came back and went into his flat. it was a bit quiet I thought but then figured everyone is probably outside on the terrace so made nothing of it. In I go and straight through to the front room shouting "Awrite **edited**s!" rather than finding my friends there, there was just one guy sitting eating a curry. I looked around for a moment and noticed this guy must have broken in killed all my friends brought his own TV, couch, pictures, wife etc and made himself at home. 

He looked for a second and said "Who you calling a **edited**?...**edited**" 

Out the window I saw my buds on the terrace going into the flat in the adjacent tower. So I had obviously went up the wrong stairwell and into the wrong house. I made my apologies and we both laughed and I pissed off.

If this was in America I would be dead right now.

*edited = shlong noggin -(paraphrasing)


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Tallen his info is out of date. Cape Town is quickly overtaking Gauteng in the crime stats, most probably because the guys in Gauteng did that.

Safe zones and safe rooms are the in thing. As for lights , walls and spikes we had our bikes stolen over our six foot spiked walls the other day. I almost wish I had bumped into the thieves because I had gone out to see why the lights had come on, with my Glock in my hand instead if my usual Airsoft pistol. It is normally stray cats coming to bother our cats so I persuade them to leave. But that time I didn't bother to go get it and just drew my Glock and lit up the WML. But they had already scarpered with the bikes. By the time the cops arrived they were long gone.
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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:



Speaking of- I have this bizarre phobia that I'm going to hear my front door crash open, grab my gun and run out only to be shot by a SWAT officer coming in on the wrong house. Not sure if that's ever happened, but for whatever reason it's something I always think about.


This happens quite often.

That is one one of the problems of a no knock warrant. Getting the address correct.

I'll admit I live where there are worse criminals, or maybe just more common ones, but noises mean checking things with guns at hand.

This doesn't mean pointing it at everything and pulling the trigger at the slightest provocation. There is a reason my I carry a 500+ lumen hand light and have a light on my gun as well, to make damn sure what I'm shooting at.

Make sure you know what you are doing if you're going to do this though, there are plenty of stories of people accidentally shooting innocents.


I'm fortunate enough to live in an era that hasn't seen a murder in over a decade, very docile part of America.

FE-welcome back! I actually have had an intruder come in at night. I was about 19 and had just moved in with my sister, was talking on the phone with the girl I was dating at the time and noticed a shadow on the wall. I jumped up to see somebody run out our back door. It was funny because I had a 12 guage in my closer but completely forgot about it in my panic.

Everyone thought I was lying until it happened to a neughbor and we learned that there were people going into houses at night as some kind of adrenaline rush until the cops busted them. I definitely learned to lock my doors.
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As someone who has actually confronted a robber in person who broke into my house... trust me, I will ALWAYS have a gun in case it happens again. 

I was about 14 or 15 years old, and I heard a noise in my garage below my room. So I headed down and walked out there, and there was a big guy standing there holding my dads road bike. 

I was so shocked I just stood there for a second, while the thief was trying to decide what to do...

I TOOK OFF towards the door, and he ran after me. But, I was able to get into the house and lock the little door knob lock and after he beat on it for a minute, he decided to leave. 

I called the cops and they only took 45 minutes to get there...


If I hear a noise, you better believe I will be armed when I go check on it. It just isn't worth the risk to not protect yourself, or more importantly your family. Especially in the current economic times, when people are getting desperate.

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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:


I'll admit I live where there are worse criminals, or maybe just more common ones, but noises mean checking things with guns at hand.


Was talking with a S. African the other day. He said that all you need to stay safe in S. Africa is:

  • A big dog
  • A high wall with broken glass or concertina wire on top
  • very bright motion lights
  • A subscription to a good (armed) security company
  • A big, bright flashlight
  • Strong locks on your doors and windows
  • A R4 with a couple of extra mags
  • A backup sidearm just in case


Of course, he DID mention he lives in Gauteng (but not in the cities) and said that Capetown is a much, much, much nicer and safer place.
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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:



Speaking of- I have this bizarre phobia that I'm going to hear my front door crash open, grab my gun and run out only to be shot by a SWAT officer coming in on the wrong house. Not sure if that's ever happened, but for whatever reason it's something I always think about.


This happens quite often.

That is one one of the problems of a no knock warrant. Getting the address correct.

I'll admit I live where there are worse criminals, or maybe just more common ones, but noises mean checking things with guns at hand.

This doesn't mean pointing it at everything and pulling the trigger at the slightest provocation. There is a reason my I carry a 500+ lumen hand light and have a light on my gun as well, to make damn sure what I'm shooting at.

Make sure you know what you are doing if you're going to do this though, there are plenty of stories of people accidentally shooting innocents.
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Police despise those false alert break in calls.

I've freaked out over noises a million times in the past, but I have a rule that if the sound doesn't repeat itself it's very likely not somebody breaking into your house. No real scientific basis for that but it keeps my mind from running wild on unlikely scenarios.

Speaking of- I have this bizarre phobia that I'm going to hear my front door crash open, grab my gun and run out only to be shot by a SWAT officer coming in on the wrong house. Not sure if that's ever happened, but for whatever reason it's something I always think about.

More realistically I just fear I wouldn't have full control of my faculties having just woke up and accidentally pop a friend, family member, or date. So I usually just ignore my guns.
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

You're basically repeating what I said. If you're convinced someone is in the house call 911

I think that the word convinced can be confusing and is somewhat up for interpretation even though the definition is something to the effect of with certaintee. A thud in the house i wouldn't consider a certaintee. Many people would probably feel that someone is breeching if a window got busted in. AT the point that someone may use the word KNOW, someone is probably starring down a barrel or maybe lead is flying. Its a tough subject to nut shell because of all of the variables.

Usaf really put it best that people need to do what they feel is right to protect their family.

They can have everything they want around here just dont harm my family and grab the bills on the way out and take care of those too.

Right, my initial point was just that a bump in the night is not the same as knowing someone is in the house. That was my only point of contention between immediately calling 911 vs checking it out while being armed JIC.
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You're basically repeating what I said. If you're convinced someone is in the house call 911

I think that the word convinced can be confusing and is somewhat up for interpretation even though the definition is something to the effect of with certaintee. A thud in the house i wouldn't consider a certaintee. Many people would probably feel that someone is breeching if a window got busted in. AT the point that someone may use the word KNOW, someone is probably starring down a barrel or maybe lead is flying. Its a tough subject to nut shell because of all of the variables.

Usaf really put it best that people need to do what they feel is right to protect their family.

They can have everything they want around here just dont harm my family and grab the bills on the way out and take care of those too.

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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

So would I call 911 during the confrontation or after?

I think Tallen already put it out there pretty solidly. If you know someone is actively trying to break into your home, I would suggest barricading yourself in a room and calling 911. I understand you only want to argue about it because you disagree with some of us. That's fine. 

Everyone should do what they feel is the most appropriate avenue to defend their life and the life of their family. Not sure what the point of being contentious about it is.
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So would I call 911 during the confrontation or after?
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

So if im truely convinced that a criminal is in my house you dont suggest calling 911? Thanks for the info I'll take note.

Yes, that's exactly what I said.
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

So if im truely convinced that a criminal is in my house you dont suggest calling 911? Thanks for the info I'll take note.


It's not a matter of being convinced that a criminal is in your house, it's a matter of not being convinced that one isn't. If I hear breaking glass, or a door being kicked down, I'm barricading my wife and myself in our room with the pistol trained on the door and have her call 911. If it's a matter of hearing a strange noise in the middle of the night that isn't obviously someone in the house, I'm going to go armed just in case.
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So if im truely convinced that a criminal is in my house you dont suggest calling 911? Thanks for the info I'll take note.
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

Seems to me that any story being told where someone is truly convinced that there is a criminal in their house should be accompanied by something like "and I immediately called 911".


 "Someone is in my house" calls are extremely serious, at least around here. I don't need three police cars running emergency traffic to get to me if I am capable of checking out the noise on my own first.
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Seems to me that any story being told where someone is truly convinced that there is a criminal in their house should be accompanied by something like "and I immediately called 911".

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Yeah, they don't do any god when you don't grab them. 
 


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Yeah, they don't do any god when you don't grab them. 
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I'm not particularly impressed either...

The song paranoia from the kinks comes to mind.

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