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    Posted: 17 August 2013 at 2:19pm
Forget the 'Octocore', that is only for korean phones, bad salesman exaggerating, the inter web has the truth which I explained to him when I went back to get the otter case.  I really liked the q10 as I'm familiar with the earlier versions, it has great slide predictive texting which works awesome, but like you, Rofl, it gets tedious to navigate the web with.  One of the many neat apps on the S4 is Watchon, turns your phone into a remote, which has been handy as we are staying at a bed & breakfast while we wait to move into our house in Edmonton.  Two tv's, no remotes and it took under a minute to set it up for both tv and satellite receiver.  I have to say that the S4 is almost too much for a pocket phone, I'm trying to use the otter box case and carry it on my belt but I feel like a toolbar so for now it's in my front pocket.  As you mention, Lightening, the WIFI direct works awesome, and as we have no interweb here, it's very easy to set it up as a hotspot.  I'm using my workphone for hotspot as we have unlimited data plan but the blackberry hotspot is a pain to set up, I had to manually switch it to WEP to get it to work with the macbook pro.
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Hey johnny once swype recognizes your text style it works great. If you are in the market for a tablet, now that you're using a sami phone I'd stick with sami. Ipads are nice but you'll hose yourself with connectivity if you have two separate operating systems.   IMO WIFI direct is what's special about your phone and apple uses Dlna.
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Nice Johnny, hope you like it!

I've been in the market for getting a new phone myself. The new BB Q10 looks extremely attractive but lacks in apps. I'd be ok with that because I only ever use my phone for making calls and browsing social media/news. Specs aren't bad on it and the keyboard feels very nice. I'm not a huge fan of large screens.
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Update: I tried to get used to my wife's iphone, I just didn't warm up to it.  I had lots of experience with RIM products which have been my work phone for years. I used my sons S3 and with my gnarled hands I found it much easier to type with and the S4 battery gets a good rating so I got an S4.  Interestingly, the US model and the model available here in Canada (international) have different CPU's.  US model has the Quad-core 1.9 GHz Krait 300 and the International model has 'Octocore'; Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7.  Realistically I doubt there's any noticable difference.  Thanks again for all the help.

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Originally posted by deadeye007 deadeye007 wrote:

One problem with using the phone as a GPS is if you lose cell reception you will be screwed. I'm just bringing that up, but in a city of almost 1 million people I guess cell reception isn't an issue.


Windows Phone has built in Nokia mapping apps, which has the option to download maps to the phone for full access offline.

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A data connection is not required for the gps to function on an android. Accuracy suffers without it though.   Varified it with the samsung gtab. You also lose some off the functionality of the app. Just basic gps.

On a side note an old android makes for a great internet appliance. I.e. pandora on a wifi network at home, gps, fuzz buster. The fuzz buster app actually seems to work imo. Tests have been done that say that the radar detector app is a farce.

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Originally posted by deadeye007 deadeye007 wrote:

Originally posted by MeanMan MeanMan wrote:


And if you do go into an area where there is no signal.... even a standalone GPS wont help. My friends Garmin lost its signal in the middle of nowhere West Virginia at the same time that my old phone running Google Maps did.


Not 100% true. I've been in many places where my Garmin Nuvi worked, but my AT&T iPhone wouldn't work.


Well, you were using an iPhone.....

You're right though, you do need some sort of data connection to use a cell phone GPS. I still have both a dash-mount GPS and phone GPS. Honestly, at $70 or so bucks with free maps for life, I can't see a reason to NOT get a Garmin right now.

Deadeye's experience is actually pretty typical in WV and the mountainous areas of western VA. AT&T covers most of WV (Verizon and Sprint definitely don't) and there are enough cell towers on top of the ridges that you tend to get signal just about everywhere with the exception of the NRAO "quiet zone" and even then, you can get reception as close as Snowshoe and certain parts of Cass. Where the difficulty for traditional GPS comes in, is that all those hills and valleys make triangulation via geosynchronous satellites a bit tricky. When 4800' mountains are rising up all around you, it can be tough to get enough tracking for the dash-mounted GPS to get a fix. Meanwhile, all of those ridges and peaks have cell towers on them which can triangulate just fine as they have a clear LOS to your phone. Hence, when I'm in BFE WV, I use both. Of course, if you truly get lost in the center of the quiet zone, you're effed.....
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Originally posted by MeanMan MeanMan wrote:


And if you do go into an area where there is no signal.... even a standalone GPS wont help. My friends Garmin lost its signal in the middle of nowhere West Virginia at the same time that my old phone running Google Maps did.


Not 100% true. I've been in many places where my Garmin Nuvi worked, but my AT&T iPhone wouldn't work.
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I personally love Google Maps on my S4. Ive used a few Tom Toms and Garmins and theres no reason to have them when you have a good phone with GM. 

And if you do go into an area where there is no signal.... even a standalone GPS wont help. My friends Garmin lost its signal in the middle of nowhere West Virginia at the same time that my old phone running Google Maps did.

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I ♥ my S3. Will never go back to iPhone. My mom has a Nokia Lumia 920 and it's really nice too. Best camera out there and if my mom can use a smart phone effectively, then anyone can.
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I suggest a phone with wifi direct capability. Most other features being equal.
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I've only had one or two issues with a phone GPS, but these days I no longer bother with my dedicated GPS and just use the phone's navigation.

I've used Nokia N95's, Galaxy S2 and now an S4. They are more accurate than not.

And often more up to date than a GPS.

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I can't say that my iPhone has led me astray. If you are so paranoid about where the phone takes you, just look at the destination to make sure it makes sense.

And if you are traveling using your phone GPS for long distance, cell towers shouldn't matter. The phone will know the path and a satellite will keep it going. Now if you want to look at the map, you are out of luck.

If you were to get a GPS, get one with constant updates. It's nice to have a dedicated GPS for long distance, but when it's 4 years old and hasn't been updated, it takes you through the worst places. My iPhone gave me much better routes.

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Originally posted by deadeye007 deadeye007 wrote:

One problem with using the phone as a GPS is if you lose cell reception you will be screwed. I'm just bringing that up, but in a city of almost 1 million people I guess cell reception isn't an issue.


That's a good point. If you aren't big into smartphones just get a normal or 3G one and buy a nice GPS. Probably save more money that way too.
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One problem with using the phone as a GPS is if you lose cell reception you will be screwed. I'm just bringing that up, but in a city of almost 1 million people I guess cell reception isn't an issue.
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Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

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Besides, having a phone with GPS is great for finding local restaurants when you are walking to them. Who wants to hold a GPS and a phone while walking? 

My iphone works, but I would say Galaxy s4. I would say the maps apps are getting better too.

My Navigon has never tried to give me walking directions to a bank in China.  I can't say the same about my iPhone. 
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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

In my opinion you are better off just getting a GPS and a phone.  If you use your phone as a GPS, you're going to want an actual GPS app, which costs nearly as much as just getting a GPS.  Google maps/navigation sucks.  

I've considered this as well, I'm going to wait until we move before I do anything, way more selection and no sales tax in Alberta; thanks for all the suggestions.
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Besides, having a phone with GPS is great for finding local restaurants when you are walking to them. Who wants to hold a GPS and a phone while walking? 

My iphone works, but I would say Galaxy s4. I would say the maps apps are getting better too.

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In my opinion you are better off just getting a GPS and a phone.  If you use your phone as a GPS, you're going to want an actual GPS app, which costs nearly as much as just getting a GPS.  Google maps/navigation sucks.  
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My wife has an iPhone, I just can't warm up to it.  I've had different versions of blackberry for a work  phone as of late - Q10 most recently - because I'm used to it and I can somewhat text easily on it I was going to get one.  But now I need a gps as well, hence the post.
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