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    Posted: 22 June 2013 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

. . .  but here it's almost all manual cars.

Yes it is.  I taught myself to drive a stick while stationed in the U.K. in the early 1980's.  (Which means I had to learn to drive on the wrong side of the road at the same time I was learning to use a stick shift . . . with my left hand.)  It took me a while to remember to use the right hand to shift once I got back to the states;  I grabbed the window crank quite a few times instead of the gear shift.


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Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

. . .  but here it's almost all manual cars.

Yes it is.  I taught myself to drive a stick while stationed in the U.K. in the early 1980's.  (Which means I had to learn to drive on the wrong side of the road at the same time I was learning to use a stick shift . . . with my left hand.)  It took me a while to remember to use the right hand to shift once I got back to the states;  I grabbed the window crank quite a few times instead of the gear shift.

I'll likely never drive an auto again after slamming the brakes on a dual carriageway while attempting to change gear. I maintain I nearly died.

I did that at work once while I was in the U.K.  (Most of the tactical government vehicles we used on base were imported from the states and I would sometimes forget they weren't manuals.)  Split my lip on the steering wheel and probably would have been worse but I was in combat gear and the helmet absorbed most of the shock.


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Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

With the new pics I am prettyimpressed mate. Nice brief.

How much experience do you have with manual? and how do you like it? I just ask as I've always wondered why it's mainly auto over your way but here it's almost all manual cars.

I'll likely never drive an auto again after slamming the brakes on a dual carriageway while attempting to change gear. I maintain I nearly died.

Thanks!

This is my first manual car, but motorcycles are manual, and I've been riding for about 3 or 4 years now. It took some getting used to clutching in with my foot instead of hand, but I think my experiencing in motorcycles helped me pick it up fairly quickly. It took about 3 days for me to be pretty firmly comfortable with it, at least enough so to be willing to take the car wherever and carry passengers without giving them concussions from improper shifts. :p

So it's mostly manual transmissions over there? I didn't know that. It seems like we Murricans just love our lazy, self-propelled, four-wheel boats. I wanted a car that would let me actually feel the driving experience, so I was looking for a light, rear wheel drive coupe with a manual transmission, i.e. a sports car. :)

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With the new pics I am prettyimpressed mate. Nice brief.

How much experience do you have with manual? and how do you like it? I just ask as I've always wondered why it's mainly auto over your way but here it's almost all manual cars.

I'll likely never drive an auto again after slamming the brakes on a dual carriageway while attempting to change gear. I maintain I nearly died.
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Where are the half naked women on car picts????



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I added dash/console and motor pics.
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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

I figure I'll be happy with about 260 horses and 200 ft/lb torque. Given that this thing is a few pounds lighter than a Honda S2000, I won't need a massive gain to get a pretty killer power to weight ratio.


Yeah, I'd imagine that you could have a ton of fun and still keep it manageable on a track.

I haven't had a chance to drive one yet, but I hear they handle somewhat like a Miata, and I've pushed my buddy's MX-5 pretty hard through corners and it felt great.

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I figure I'll be happy with about 260 horses and 200 ft/lb torque. Given that this thing is a few pounds lighter than a Honda S2000, I won't need a massive gain to get a pretty killer power to weight ratio.
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Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Now ptuning needs to just hurry and finally release their turbo kit, and then you can get it and have a beast of a car.

Ptuning has been working on this car the day it was released to the first 86. It still has yet to be finished. Taking a long time.


I think there's already a supercharger for it, possibly Vortech or Procharger.

Really though, for what that car's made of, your first investment (right away) should be wider, stickier tires and a dyno tune. I'll bet you'll see the performance boost you're looking for from those things alone.

I'm in the process of getting the turbo done on my car right now. I've got the turbo kit, intercooler, boost a bump, Crane cams, x-pipe, and cat delete that should boost me to around 450 horsepower to the rear wheel (around 510'ish to the crank)

The catch, however, is that this is essentially a straight line build. I'll need to get suspension parts from a Shelby to put the car's handling where it needs to be to handle the extra horses, and at that point I'll probably just buy another car to drive every day.

RWD cars are fun as hell, but you can quickly offset the balance of horsepower to suspension and over power yourself. Honestly,  at this point, I'm toying with adding just enough mods to my car to get it to outrunning 5.0's and SS Camaros and then putting the turbo up for when I can rebuild the bottom end and pull the horsepower numbers up significantly (I'd like to get 500 to the rear wheels.) Again though, that's straight line racing.
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Now ptuning needs to just hurry and finally release their turbo kit, and then you can get it and have a beast of a car.

Ptuning has been working on this car the day it was released to the first 86. It still has yet to be finished. Taking a long time.

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Definitely jealous. That's one sexy car you got there.
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Originally posted by Yomillio Yomillio wrote:


Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:


Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

I'm not a big RWD fan.
This single comment makes me call into question everything I ever learned from you.


This, x100000.

Don't get me wrong, I live further north than WV; AWD comes in handy during a few months of the year. †However, the amount of fun you can have in a RWD platform is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the average AWD platform, especially compared to an inherently understeery AWD platform like my Impreza.


FWD sucks. Plain and simple.

I live farther north than WV and I'm still alive. Decent tires and a few brain cells will get you through 90% of what AWD will.

Plus a true 4x4 with a selectable low range transfer case is a zillion times better than AWD.
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Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

I'm not a big RWD fan.
This single comment makes me call into question everything I ever learned from you.

This, x100000.

Don't get me wrong, I live further north than WV; AWD comes in handy during a few months of the year.  However, the amount of fun you can have in a RWD platform is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the average AWD platform, especially compared to an inherently understeery AWD platform like my Impreza.
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

I'm not a big RWD fan.
This single comment makes me call into question everything I ever learned from you.
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In Houston, inclimate weather is "hot" and "rain." The last one is fairly few and far between. Out here, AWD is a just-to-say-I-have-it thing, so I went for the most fun I could find on 4 wheels that met my requirements. Plus, the few extra grand I saved against the BRZ was a nice bonus.

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Yeah, the major difference is the trim level, some exterior changes, and the suspension. The Scion is a bit more over-steer happy than the BRZ is. You have to want to put the Subie into a drift, the FR-S will do it a lot more easily.

Either way, nice choice! I'm not a big RWD fan. I appreciate it, but wouldn't want one for my daily driver given the weather we get where I live.
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