Near Future & Gun Control

So, KBK, going back a bit, you have no problem with people having fully functional nuclear arms? They are just tools, after all.

I feel like I've got a thread full of people arguing against something I'm not arguing for. 

agentwhale007 wrote: BARREL BREAK wrote: So, KBK, going back a bit, you have no problem with people having fully functional nuclear arms? They are just tools, after all.   I guess both ideological extremes in the gun control debate are fans of absurd hyperbole for the sake of.

That's what's known in some circles as a joke. 

agentwhale007 wrote: Kayback wrote: That right there is the main problem with the shooting community. It is such a wide and encompassing field that there is literally people from every walk in life in it. . . . Anti gunners seem to be a more or less homogenous group and this makes it easy for them to band together.   Yeah this is kind of a classical cognitive bias that is pretty widely recognized.

You may be right, but I did say it SEEMS more like it, not that it IS like that. However I have heard various anti groups applauding the efforts of other groups even though they have not achieved the main aim of the first group. One step and all that.

Was the NFA enacted to protect the public, or allow the prohibition agents to keep their jobs?

CA Senator Diane Feinstein has released a summary of her new 'Assault Weapon' Ban to be introduced in January:

Summary of 2013 Feinstein Assault Weapons Legislation

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
-- 120 specifically-named firearms
-- Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
-- Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
-- Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
-- Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
-- Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
-- Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
-- Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
-- Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
-- Background check of owner and any transferee;
-- Type and serial number of the firearm;
-- Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
-- Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
-- Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=10993387-5d4d-4680-a872-ac8ca4359119

i had a fun conversation with someone very anti gun about registering "assault weapons" as NFA items. they thought it was a good idea to treat them the same as machine guns... until i explained how if i have to spend the money and take the time to register as NFA i would not register them as "assault rifles" but one of the scarier already restricted classifications such as "short barreled rifle" or "Any other weapon" which would cover the current configuration but let me turn it into a much different class of firearm :D. given the fact i would already be doing all the work adding an extra form to build a silencer would be a must...

Saw a screen shot of Jeremy Clarksons twitter, saying it took them 40 years to get rid of Morgan, and they don't want him back.

I rather have that rambling idiot support anti-gun, than a well educated American arguing for stricter gun control.

BARREL BREAK wrote: Clarkson is also a racist and a blithering idiot, despite making one of my favorite TV shows, sooooo.

Difference between Clarkson and Morgan. Is Clarkson talks about cars, Morgan talks about subjects he has no knowledge on.