Who voted?

*Stealth* wrote: Tolgak wrote: *Stealth* wrote: Well F.E.? Where's that landslide? I like to gloat as much as anyone, but we don't need this. Pride needs to take a back seat to progress. I'm not gloating - I voted G. Johnson - just observing.

Hey Obama, how about you close down gitmo, repeal NDAA and the Patriot Act, leave Afghanistan.  And we have a deal

IMO, the US needs a better system than the 2-party system. This election was like comparing dog vomit to a mouldy cheeseburger. For the people my ass, only 1/3 of the nation voted and when they did it was only by popular opinion.

FreeEnterprise wrote: tallen702 wrote: FreeEnterprise wrote: Of course... So when Romney wins in a landslide, what will the liberal media do? Funniest. Quote. EVER!!!!!! Really?... Early voting in Ohio is in... Guess who won the early vote? http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20121106/NEWS010601/311060015/Ohio-presidential-vote-by-counties Get ready to be shocked, when Romney EASILY wins the race here in Ohio.

Nope choop. Just heard on Fox

"The republican party does not need to change" and talking about how more conservative candidates will seem good after a "failed second term"

I voted on my way home from work.
My votes for local candidates were also largely wasted, since incumbents largely won, despite making a mess of things.

My guy lost tonight. (3rd Party)

But as I said last time this happened- Obama is now my president again. I may not like what he's done/doing, but there has got to be a level of respect for the office regardless of who is in it. Vilification of someone does jack crap to accomplish anything.
You can't beat this guy anymore Right-wing. Now maybe work with him a bit.

stratoaxe wrote: It disgusts me as much as anyone whose, but FE is just the Republican version of every lefty in the 2000s. .

I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that.

But seriously. What's done is done, and the Republican party has four years to clean itself up and find a candidate to win back the disenchanted voters who jumped ship because they weren't making any sense.

The democrats have 4 years to make good on their promises. They've been given 4 more years, and if they don't go lame duck, they have to accomplish a lot in these subsequent years to convince people that voting for a Democrat again in 2016 is worth it. With the basic platforms of the parties being what they are, they'll be hard-pressed to hire someone of the same cloth if 8 years of Obama doesn't make huge differences.

On the upside> One of the news reports I heard yesterday is that the track of the economy was such that regardless of who won last night, there would be improvement. People were just scrambling about trying to figure out who would get the credit if Romney won the auction instead of Obama.

My facebook news feed was disgusting last night.
Smug and irritable left leaning individuals gloating, and republican voters all doom and gloom. We seriously can't be gracious in victory nor gracious in defeat, and that bothers me more than who manages to get elected.

Listen folks, there's not a single candidate out there who is as good, or as bad as they're made out to be. I have no doubt that Obama will NOT be responsible for the downfall of American society, but I'm also not convinced he's going to save the world either.

Reb Cpl wrote: the Republican party has four years to clean itself up and find a candidate to win back the disenchanted voters who jumped ship because they weren't making any sense.

You'd better hope they get their collective heads out of their butts and start touting this guy as their candidate in 2016. He's got a few social issues he needs to back down on to make moderate republicans swing back from Libertarian or Independent status (gay marriage and abortion) but he hasn't really pushed hard on those issues while in office (to this point).

The democrats have 4 years to make good on their promises. They've been given 4 more years, and if they don't go lame duck, they have to accomplish a lot in these subsequent years to convince people that voting for a Democrat again in 2016 is worth it ... I have no doubt that Obama will NOT be responsible for the downfall of American society, but I'm also not convinced he's going to save the world either.

The reality is that the president doesn't control the economy. I think the split between our generation and the FE/OS generation is that we understand that the president can't just wave a magic wand and make it all better. It's a managerial position which requires support from everyone in the company (government) to make lasting and substantial changes. And much like a business, market factors do more to determine the course we take. It's not up to the president to fix the economy. He can help ease the process of rebuilding, but it's up to us to quit spending money on cheap foreign goods, to tell companies that we aren't alright with outsourcing and moving jobs, and that our well being is more important than that of shareholders.

My prediction is that we'll continue to see a slow uptake in the economy over the next 4 years. We aren't going to see Clinton-era economic numbers, but we aren't in the middle of a .com and housing bubble either. Just look at your own circumstances. 6mo without a job when if you'd been in the same boat 2 years ago, it would more than likely have been a year or more. Things are getting better every day. Housing rates are climbing again. People are finding jobs much more quickly, and we're seeing more spending on both commercial and personal goods. Honestly, I think after this holiday season, you're going to see near continuous economic growth.

We're not a Christian nation.....

Are you really basing health insurance costs off of 20 years ago?

What amazes me is how little you and FE don't understand the underlying reasons for health care cost increases OS.

Two words: Tort Reform

Without it, you will never, ever, ever see health care costs reach a reasonable level.