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Lightningbolt wrote: I've said this for a while; obama is going four more.

Lightningbolt wrote: I've said this for a while; obama is going four more.

I agree. Which is sad, because I originally said this would be a cake-walk for the republicans. I still think it would have been too, had the republicans managed to find a better candidate.

Edited by __sneaky__ - 06 October 2012 at 9:08pm

FreeEnterprise wrote: Lightningbolt wrote: I've said this for a while; obama is going four more. Well if he does.  Oh wait, that was today in CA...

I think some type of conflict in Iran is probably inevitable.

evillepaintball wrote: brihard wrote: FreeEnterprise wrote: Lightningbolt wrote: I've said this for a while; obama is going four more. Well if he does.  Oh wait, that was today in CA... You do realize that America has some of the cheapest retail gas in the world, and that it's only beaten out by countries that engage in massive direct government subsidy thereof? http://www.bloomberg.com/slideshow/2012-08-13/highest-cheapest-gas-prices-by-country.html#slide51 American policies have kept gas prices very, very low by global standards, but GLOBAL market dynamics have had prices continuing to increase. You can hardly blame Obama for this. Prices were artificially low for some years due to the global recession, so any whining about gas prices that is univariate and isn't longitudinal for more than a couple years will fall flat on its face. You could, of course, elect Republicans who will support an Israeli strike on Iran, watch the strait of Hormux get closed, and see what happens *then*... But I'll probably be too busy overseas at that point to come back and say 'I told you so'. This is complete BS.  There is always time to come back for an "i told you so" post.

FreeEnterprise wrote: Curious what our liberal friends think of the polling today?...

Pretty good

FreeEnterprise wrote: Lol, New York Times... hahaha.  Interesting how Gallup is now showing a +12 Republican shift... That is massive, and yet, neither one of your sources shows that at all... weird, huh... I'm sure the media covering up Obama's failure in Benghazi won't affect the election... Or something.

Meanwhile in New Jersey one of the most thought-of Republican Governors essentially flips Mitt the bird....

I love how personal FE takes this stuff.  

Terrorist attacks happen... That is life.

But the 9/11 attacks didn't just come down to "we got hit." We knew there was chatter, we had warnings, we ignored.

This is where you run into problems playing the blame game no matter what your political persuasions.

When Bin Laden was killed and Obama "took credit," the right was up in arms.He had nothing to do with it, he just gave the okay, etc.

But now something bad happens in the same distant region of the world and itsentirety his fault, process be damned.

I've said it a million times-you won't win an election by firing accusations off full auto at your opponent, you win it by methodically picking your shots. If you bombard the American people with a million accusations, just as the left did under Dubya, the people will see you as whiny.

The other problem is that, in issues such as this, they're going to run straight to your past failures. This is a never ending argument of accusations.

So apply the conspiracy theory test. What did Obama stand to gain by purposely allowing American diplomats to die and right before an election no less?

So I believe it's fairly likely he didn't purposely allow this incident to happen for some sinister reason, and by that logic I see it as a possible mistake at worst, but really I'm in no position to judge because I about as much about strategic reaction as I know about nuclear reaction (not alot.)

Mistakes that cost lives are tragic, but they happen every day in the countries were wage war in at the cost of thousands of lives. I don't see conservatives lined up to crucify military leaders.

But time will tell, I could always be entirely wrong. Regardless, there are more pressing issues that are being entirely ignored every time the GOP tries to bring an issue like this to the forefront.