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No, you guys are missing what I am saying. 

The polls have been weaponized to help Obama. Just like the "fact checks" are so partisan now a days, that they almost always slam on the Republican while repeating democratic talking points. 

If you are going to do a poll, you are supposed to mimic what you will see on election day. These polls that show Obama up are only because they are skewing the number of democrats voting vs the number of independents and republicans...

For example 

Florida:

In 2004 the vote was R+4.  

In 2008 the vote was D+3 

CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9.


So 9 more democrats will vote than before according to our "non" partisan polling... That has never happened. EVER. And yet, they don't publicize that fact, they just say, hey look Obama is up by 9... because we skewed the poll to have 9 more democrats than have ever voted...


Ohio: 

In 2004 the vote was R+5 

In 2008 the vote was D+8 

CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9


Pennsylvania: 

In 2010 the vote was D+3 

In 2008 the vote was D+7 

CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/26/BREAKING-Democrat-Voters-Turnout-Advantage-Over-Republicans-Will-Break-All-Time-Records

So by asking more democrats in a poll, shockingly they get more people voting for Obama... Problem is,  the independents are swinging towards Romney. 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/27/Romney-Winning-Swing-State-Independents-Media-Ignores


They do this to make republicans think they are done for, and hope that less will show up to actually vote... Or figure, "ah, it doesn't matter, Obama has it in the bag". When as usual they are just throwing out propaganda, and you guys buy it like it was polls in the old days before it became something controlled by the left. 



Oh btw, if Obama doesn't like your companies polling numbers. The justice department might open an investigation into  your company. 

http://markets.cbsnews.com/cbsnews/news/read/22211431/daily_caller

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If I've been reading correctly, the Rasmussen poll is the only one not giving.Obama the 9 point lead.

I know nothing of reliability when it comes to polls because I find polling in general to be a very unscientific method of reporting anything, but I don't know why you'd pick the one dissenting poll out of a half dozen others to report on.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Why does the major media keep posting polls that are +9 democrat?...
Because they are the ones available? The Rasmussen one is mentioned, but some doubt is mentioned as to its reliability..
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Why does the major media keep posting polls that are +9 democrat?...
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I figured since we're just shy of one month out, it'd link to FiveThirtyEight.com, probably the best continuously-updating collection of aggregated elections/polling data available. 

Now that I know things about survey research and statistics, I feel like I appreciate Silver's work way more this election than last election. 


Edited by agentwhale007 - 27 September 2012 at 3:02pm
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