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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

I've said this for a while; obama is going four more.


Well if he does. 



Oh wait, that was today in CA...

You do realize that America has some of the cheapest retail gas in the world, and that it's only beaten out by countries that engage in massive direct government subsidy thereof?


American policies have kept gas prices very, very low by global standards, but GLOBAL market dynamics have had prices continuing to increase. You can hardly blame Obama for this. Prices were artificially low for some years due to the global recession, so any whining about gas prices that is univariate and isn't longitudinal for more than a couple years will fall flat on its face.

You could, of course, elect Republicans who will support an Israeli strike on Iran, watch the strait of Hormux get closed, and see what happens *then*... But I'll probably be too busy overseas at that point to come back and say 'I told you so'.
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Obama is -0.5, Romney is +0.5 since the debate. It might shift a bit tomorrow, too. 

The debate brought a good bounce for Romney. I'll be interested to see how the next debate works out. 
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

I've said this for a while; obama is going four more.
I agree. Which is sad, because I originally said this would be a cake-walk for the republicans. I still think it would have been too, had the republicans managed to find a better candidate.
 
While I was working as a telemarketer, I did a political survey campaign for a while. I don't remember who had contracted the campaign, but we called cell phones and landlines both. Actually, I'm not sure there are many telemarketing campaigns anymore that don't have cell phone numbers in their database.


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Well, and we got cell numbers in our packets in my data collections classes in college, but I was under the impression that Gallup and the like still used landlines exclusively.


Part of the hypothesis of why Rasmussen tends to skew right is because they still only use landlines for phone polls. 
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

I've said this for a while; obama is going four more.


Well if he does. 



Oh wait, that was today in CA...
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

I've said this for a while; obama is going four more.


The problem I see with this is I think people still have the mindset of four years ago and think the Romney is just another Bush, and I see the media playing this as well, even in Canada.

Sucks for Romney because maybe he is a great candidate for Presidency, but people will refuse to see that because they are so trained to automatically think Romney=Republican=Bush=Bad, run away!

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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:


Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

 
Cell, which I thought was odd,

A lot of companies are now putting cellphone databanks into their random selection pools to have a more accurate sample size. 

We're at the point that using only landlines yields a result skewed much older than what it should otherwise be, as a lot of young people don't have landlines. I know I've not had a landline in three years. 



Well, and we got cell numbers in our packets in my data collections classes in college, but I was under the impression that Gallup and the like still used landlines exclusively.
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I've said this for a while; obama is going four more.
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Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

 
Cell, which I thought was odd,

A lot of companies are now putting cellphone databanks into their random selection pools to have a more accurate sample size. 

We're at the point that using only landlines yields a result skewed much older than what it should otherwise be, as a lot of young people don't have landlines. I know I've not had a landline in three years. 

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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:


Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:


I got called yesterday for what I think was a post-debate poll. I told them I was undecided.


Landline or cell? 


Cell, which I thought was odd, but they only asked me if I knew who I was going to vote for. I said I wasn't sure and they thanked me for my response.

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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

By Monday we should see a reflection in polling data on the impact of the debate. 

I'll be interested to see how much of a catch-up this gave Romney. 
I don't know. Mainstream media seems to be beating the Anti Big Bird angle pretty hard.
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Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:


I got called yesterday for what I think was a post-debate poll. I told them I was undecided.

Landline or cell? 
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I feel like my last response was ignored, how normal.

I got called yesterday for what I think was a post-debate poll. I told them I was undecided.
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By Monday we should see a reflection in polling data on the impact of the debate. 

I'll be interested to see how much of a catch-up this gave Romney. 
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This popped up on Yahoo this morning:
 
 
I found it fairly enlightening and sad at the same time. It truly irks me that we have to deal with the constant BS rhetoric instead of someone actually getting up and telling the friggin truth. I truly hope at some point, our society gets sick of this crap, dumps them all and elects someone into office that tells the truth and is straightforward on things. The truth, how refreshing.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:


The government is too busy building roads to the white suburbs and ignoring the black inner city. 
Yeah, and? I agree with this statement and have zero problem with it. God forbid that the people who actually pay property taxes, higher income taxes, and more sales taxes through their spending should also reap the benefits more. For shame!
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Originally posted by FE FE wrote:

For some strange reason the hugely racist remarks he made weren't covered by the national media in attendance...


There's a massive difference between racist and racially motivated.

And it's funny to me the double standard the right exercises on this subject. They decry accusations of a racially motivated attack on the black culture as being silly then constantly accuse the government of waging war on Jesus and Christmas.

Personally, I find both accusations to be absolute ignorance, but the contradiction is amusing.

Also, weren't you the one that accused the government of using abortions to keep the black population down? Didn't you also accuse democrats of abusing the black population in order to keep the poverty / minority vote?

Seems pretty attacking to me. So why is it racist that Obama pointed it out? If I were black and the government was killing my babies and forcing me into poverty with welfare I'd be pissed off as well. Unless of course even you don't believe that nonsense and you just be trolling.

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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

The government is too busy building roads to the white suburbs and ignoring the black inner city.


Well, it is true. Statistically speaking, more money is spent on upkeep and construction by the state and federal governments in areas which are predominantly white. The reasons are myriad and far too numerous to list here, but the biggest reasoning is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease and well-off white folks tend to complain to the people who can direct the money to fix things.

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