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Nifty stuff on that paint.

I took my Springfield to the range this week and was incredibly impressed. Really eliminated my aversion to 1911's. I'd like to get a threaded barrel for mine as well.

I really dig the Trijicon sights, I think they're what sold me on that model.
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What/who's make trigger is that K?? I like that color combo. Nice work , let us know how it stands up to shootikng a few hundred rounds through it.  Did you use Duracoat?
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Nah, that is next on the list. This is good old off the shelf Rustoleum.

It's a Chip McCormick trigger.

I can't tell if they still make them. They are great, but the trigger is rounded. Not the curve that fits your finger, but the actual trigger itself is U shaped.

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Kayback you dolt, you grabbed your 1911, not your model 98!
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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Nah, that is next on the list. This is good old off the shelf Rustoleum.

It's a Chip McCormick trigger.

I can't tell if they still make them. They are great, but the trigger is rounded. Not the curve that fits your finger, but the actual trigger itself is U shaped.

KBK

So far, it is not in MidwayUSA catalog, I got the master catalog #35 last week. I am looking at possibly a Swenson ( I don't know if it made by The Swenson of 1911 smithing fame)  or the STI long trigger.
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Kayback, who makes your 1911? How do you like it?
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It is a Norinco. They are fantastic guns, especially as a base for conversions. They may be made in China but they are made right.

They mostly not available new in the US, cos they are Chinese, but there should be some second hand ones around . If Yup want one try look for a South African made Griffon. All they are are South African assembled. Norinco produce their parts.

It was the first gun I ever bought so some mistakes were made. I had the feed ramp polished to help feed hollow points. Turns out that isn't needed. Turns out magazines are more important in the feed cycle. It was also bought as a CCW, which is why it is a Commander so shooting. it isn't nearly as a easy as a 5".

It has had various things done to it.some more useful than others. The sightsI never both are PT tritium sights. The front bulb popped and I never bothered replacing it, night sights not that useful hey but the bulky sights do come in handy for one handed use.

The slide release is an STI, the grip safety a Wilson Combat, the flat main spring am Ed Brown and the trigger a Chip McCormik, the grips are VZ Operator IT's. Living in Africa sometimes means using what you can get.

I've had good luck with STI parts and their long trigger looks
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That was sent from my "smart phone" I'llfix grammar. and spelling later
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I have no issues with Chinese or Phillipino built 1911s
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^^ What he said (minus the Chinese statement I have no experience there)
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I don't mind Foreign weapons, but 1911's to me are the type of firearm that I would hate buying a Norinco/Armscor/etc. Instead, you buy a reputable manufacturer and your great-grandkids enjoy shooting it.

Not bashing anyone with a Norinco, but in my family my (now deceased) grandfathers Colt Series '70 he bought new is at the center of it all. It wouldn't be the same to me if it were some random obscure brand and weren't a family heriloom. Just like people seek pre '64 Winchester .30-30's because they are the deer rifle. A new Marlin .30-30 will shoot great, but it just isn't the same.  
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Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

I don't mind Foreign weapons, but 1911's to me are the type of firearm that I would hate buying a Norinco/Armscor/etc. Instead, you buy a reputable manufacturer and your great-grandkids enjoy shooting it.

Not bashing anyone with a Norinco, but in my family my (now deceased) grandfathers Colt Series '70 he bought new is at the center of it all. It wouldn't be the same to me if it were some random obscure brand and weren't a family heriloom. Just like people seek pre '64 Winchester .30-30's because they are the†deer rifle. A new Marlin .30-30 will shoot great, but it just isn't the same.††


I would love an old Colt 1911 as a collector's piece, but my Rock Island is a rock solid (pun intended) gun for a good price. I believe that my Rock Island will last a long time and has a life time warranty
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I am not bashing a Rock Island and I am sure it shoots great, but you heirloom an old Corvette, Mustang, or even a nice old truck, not a Fusion.
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Grawr I had a great response typed up and bam!-swiped the post reply mid text.

Anyhoo-I don't think any 1911 will hold the heirloom status the early models did. They were a hallmark of quality, style, and performance in their day and so we prize them for that. I absolutely love my Springer but I highly doubt my kids (if/when they exist) will be clamoring for my compact .45.

It's just like guitars-as much as I love my SRV, and I'm sure it will be valuable some day, it will never be a 59 sunburst.

If I were keeping a gun back for my grand kids to treasure, I'd look in the direction of a stainless Beretta 92. It was the quintessential action movie gun of the 90's, and really they're just getting harder and harder to run across. I can't name a single person that owns one.
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Sure, if you want to spend $3000 on a heirloom, then go for it. I want to spend my $ on a pistol that works and can take a beating.

http://christensenarms.com/handgun-pistol

Heirloom weapons are ok, but why not just teach them to shoot and get them some sort of .22 at an early age for themselves instead of waiting for your sorry ass to pass on and maybe leave it to them?

You could get them a nicely scrimshawed Peacemaker in .32 H&R Magnum.

The metalurgy in the Norinco 1911's is spot on. They will last forever as well. Is it a "Colt"? No. But then look at many of the WWII gun that are "collectors", they aren't either. Ithica, Springfield, Singer, hell even German Kongsberg. So wanting a "Colt" 1911 isn't always a Colt.

I would sort of agree with you on the "not American" 1911 thing, but for a shooting weapon, especially as a base for a "build" you would not go wrong with the Norinco's.

Some of the other Norinco weapons, their "M14" specifically has some bad metal in it.

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Can't say I own any safe queens. But to each its his own. Some people enjoy collecting more than shooting. And some people have the money to do both.
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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Some of the other Norinco weapons, their "M14" specifically has some bad metal in it.KBK

I was hit with some bits and pieces when one came apart next to me about 8 years ago.
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Wow! I'd only heard it suffered from peening. The one I was was beating itself to pieces compared to a fiends M1A.

Maybe it is the turn of the previous century weapons they do well? The 1897 pump action trench gun is also good to go. I believe they make an acceptable lever action shotgun as well.

I honestly get the Made in USA for something that is a classic, but if you aren't collecting I don't see the point of buying expensive because you can.

The example above of the muscle car vs the Fusion isn't true. That's like comparing a WWII Ithica 1911 to a new QSZ-92. That isn't what's going on here. It's more like comparing a 1960 Mustang with a new car built using the same specs and probably jigs as the 1960 Mustang, from a foreign company for 1/6th the price of an original.

Like I said there are some I'd avoid, but some I'd be happy to use.

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You guys are not really understanding what I am getting at. 

1911's are my favorite pistol design, and IMO, a pistol that often times one has from inheriting it from someone else or you hear someone say "This is my great-grandkids 1911" when they are 35 and they have a 6 year old son. The 1911 in my family still gets shot at the range a lot and isn't original or a safe queen by any means. New barrel, sights, trigger, hammer, slide catch, the whole shebang. 

While I know any Norinco or RIA 1911 shoots great, I would rather own/pass on a "name brand' 1911. If I were buying a pistol I really didn't care about and might even sell at some point in my life, I would probably get whatever was cheapest and fit my needs. 

Kayback, you misunderstood my heirloom comment. My grandfather didn't buy his 1911 as an heirloom, he bought it because he wanted the real deal to shoot in the 1970's and he was accustomed to his issue 1911. Things like that because heirlooms because they meant something to someone and continue to do so. You might have grandkids who shoot your Glock long after you turn to dust and they'll say "This was my granddad's G36(or whatever it is). I am happy he didn't buy some dumb Hi-Point".


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