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    Posted: 29 June 2011 at 8:37am
Of course stories like this are often ignored by the major media...
 
Which is surprising considering there is video.
 
But, here is a thread from the shooter that links the raw news footage. (this never hit the enquirer, or any of the cincy news stations that I watch/read).
 
 
I think everyone who carries concealed should have their first round chambered, as this is a perfect example where the victim couldn't have racked the slide as he was fighting off the two attackers.
 
This happened last friday night in downtown Dayton.
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What a victim shoots two criminals who attack him while he is getting gas, and try and pull him out of his car while beating him and he shoots one of them in the stomach with his ccw .45 and it is all on video and that ISN'T a story?...
 
Yeah, right. It doesn't fit the liberal media narrative... Especially since this happened at the same time Ohio passed the new eliminations of a bunch of silly restrictions on conceal carry laws, which are being signed today btw...
 
No way they would NOT cover a story like that... Oh wait.
 
btw Sunday night this happened. No print news story on this one either...
 
 
 
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Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

What a victim shoots two criminals who attack him while he is getting gas, and try and pull him out of his car while beating him and he shoots one of them in the stomach with his ccw .45 and it is all on video and that ISN'T a story?...
 
Yeah, right. It doesn't fit the liberal media narrative... Especially since this happened at the same time Ohio passed the new eliminations of a bunch of silly restrictions on conceal carry laws, which are being signed today btw...
 
No way they would NOT cover a story like that... Oh wait.
 
btw Sunday night this happened. No print news story on this one either...
 
 
 

No one likes to hear that some one defended themselves?  Just a guess mind you but a few months back, got to dig it up, a home owner here on the Island kept two would be thieves at bay in his house with a shot gun, it made local news but nothing I would want on National news.
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"My car or my life??? Here are the keys, sir. Drive safely."

A comment from one of the news stories ^^^. He didn't stop anything, his car got stolen anyway. If one of them had a gun he probably would be dead. CCW is still stupid.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

 
Yeah, right. It doesn't fit the liberal media narrative... 
 

"So when Romney wins in a landslide, what will the liberal media do?"
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I never understood why people carry without one in the pipe.

And why you post on a forum. Shut up and lawyer up.
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The news only likes when someone gets murdered.
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Originally posted by bravecoward bravecoward wrote:

The news only likes when someone gets murdered.

This.  If I had to go for a gun, inside my home or outside and shoot some one, I really don't want my name in the papers.
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What a Dayton shooter may look like: 

"So when Romney wins in a landslide, what will the liberal media do?"
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

"My car or my life??? Here are the keys, sir. Drive safely."

A comment from one of the news stories ^^^. He didn't stop anything, his car got stolen anyway. If one of them had a gun he probably would be dead. CCW is still stupid.

Stupidity aside, I still believe it is someone's right to make that choice for his or her self.  
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Why wasn't this carried everywhere?  I'm gonna go with "lame video."

On what planet is this story otherwise national news?
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In before other lame stories that were actually made national news are cited.  
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Sure, but lame stories with good video.
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I don't think FE understands what news services are actually for. Their mandate is NOT to keep you informed about what happens in the world.

Their mandater is to make a profit. To increase their circulation and to sell advertising space, in print or in air time, THAT is what they are for.

We've had this discussion before.

Non events do not make good news. Generally news falls into two categories, bad stuff and silly fluff.

This is neither. Who could get outraged by someone defending their life? Nothing bad happened so there is no indignation, so no point in using the story.

Carrying one up is a must. If your gun can't do it safely, get a new gun. With a decent holster there is nothing insafe about carrying one up, so long as you are doing it correctly. You might not have the time or the ability to chamber a round when TSHTF.

CCW is stupid? Then don't do it. CCW should be a tool at your disposal, it isn't the be all and end all of self defence. Situational awareness and the ability to difuse the situation are higher on the list of tools. The thing is without CCW that is where your options stop. I'd prefer to not have to rely on the good hearted nature of my attacker to get out of a situation alive. Do I think a CCW will always save me? No. Do I think it allows me more options than not CCW'ing does? Yes.

I will admit I live in a different crime enviroment than the rest of you, but here the badguys sometimes kill you even if you've been 100% cooperative, so why make their lives easy? Don't sell yours cheaply.

In before -think of the children/you'll shoot the wrong target/the only person at danger is yourself/you're more likely to shoot yourself.... well yes. So learn to do it better. Get training. And propper training at that. Take steps to reduce the risk to ALARP. Don't cop out.

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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

"My car or my life??? Here are the keys, sir. Drive safely."

A comment from one of the news stories ^^^. He didn't stop anything, his car got stolen anyway. If one of them had a gun he probably would be dead. CCW is still stupid.
Um, how was his car stolen when he was the one leaving the scene in it?
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The linked news story(not the OP) said it got stolen anyway. Either a separate very similar incident or the news got it way wrong? Probably the latter
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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Their mandate is NOT to keep you informed about what happens in the world.

Their mandater is to make a profit. To increase their circulation and to sell advertising space, in print or in air time, THAT is what they are for.

This is, unfortunately, the most-true media criticism posted on this forum. 

The news media is a product. It provides eyeballs to advertisers, which pay the news service to keep going. Those with power in the business don't care what the news content actually is, as long as it's something to bring in eyeballs and keep the advertising dollars flowing. 

It's no coincidence that the owners of the news media are, by and large, mega corporations. 

And it's this structure that makes me want nothing to do with the media much anymore. As far as actually participating, at least. I'll sit back and attempt to publish research that demonstrates the massive shortcomings of the news media, though. 



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