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so....he may not resign, but i'm betting he's going to get kicked out of office...conduct unbecoming, etc...plus being a ny resident, i'd like to believe that he could be using this time more productively to do stuff to improve ceesman's and i's district.
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Lucky for us the Bible is only a collection of stories and not actually what happens when we die. I feel that if I were constantly judging the rest of society on how it lives while also preaching about how no one has the right to judge me, my head would explode.
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I don't think the passage was saying what you think it was saying.
Do you think Jesus was talking about "water" when he talked about giving the samaritan woman "living water"?
Of course he wasn't talking about physical water. Again, many of Jesus teachings go to the spiritual level (you know that aspect you mock me with every post you make since it is tagged as your signature) and "judgement" is the same thing.
We all will face the judgement He is talking about when we leave our earthly bodies and enter the spiritual realm.
Of course you don't believe in that, so you only think he is talking about earthly "judgement"... Just like you probably think he was talking about "water" that would never make you thirst again too....
To someone who opens their eyes to the truth of the Bible, and doesn't let the lies of "it is just a bunch of stories" deceive them... They can see that the "judgement" Jesus is talking about is spiritual judgement, not man's judgement.
And I'm glad you brought up Luke 6. Lots of very interesting verses in that passage.
22`God will make you happy when people hate you, when they will not let you belong to their group, when they say wrong things about you and make your name bad. God blesses you when it is for the sake of the Son of Man.
Man has a certain way of thinking and acting. Of course we are not God, so we fall short of the way God thinks and acts... Clearly I wouldn't want to give my childs life for someone like weiner... But, God did...
So yeah, I have to think how can I be more like God in my actions. Well, I work on being like him and at times I fail. As I am not perfect.
But, there is a big difference between someone coming clean and apologizing for lying to the public (when they are a public servant WORKING for the people) and trying to destroy breitbart by accusing him of hacking (a felony btw) when it wasn't true, and ONLY when proof of the lie came out did he THEN "apologize". (Which wouldn't seem very sincere to most people as clearly he was busted... And only when busted owned up, if that proof hadn't come do you think he would have apologized?)
So yeah, we both agree he should resign. The bad part of me wants him to stay in office just because it damages the credibility of the liberal democrats, as he is now the posterboy of "liberal morality".
When I should be...
27`But I say to you who hear, love your enemies. Do good things to those who hate you.
28Bless those who use bad words about you. Ask God to do good to those who trouble you. 29`If someone hits you on one side of your face, turn the other side also. `If someone takes your coat, let him have your shirt also. 30`Give to every one who begs you for something. 31`Do to other people what you want them to do to you. 32If you love those who love you, what good is there in that? Even bad people love those who love them. 33If you do good things to those who do good things to you, what good is there in that? Bad people do the same. 34If you lend to those who will give to you, what good is there in that? Even bad people lend to bad people, if they think they will get the same from them. 35`Love your enemies. Do good things. Lend to people and do not look to get anything back. You will be paid well. You will be sons of the Highest One. He is kind to those who do not thank him and to those who are bad. 36So be kind like your Father.' 37`Do not judge others and you will not be judged. Do not punish others, and you will not be punished. Let others go free and God will let you go free. But, I am not the teacher... I am still a student trying to learn the ways of God. So reading further in that chapter helps put it all in perspective.
40The one who learns is not better than his teacher. But every one who learns will be like his teacher when his teacher has finished teaching him.
41`Why do you look at the small piece of dust in your brother's eye? And you do not see the big stick in your own eye.
42How can you say to your brother, "Brother, let me take the dust out of your eye"? But you do not see the stick in your own eye. You are not true to yourselves! First take the stick out of your own eye. Then you will be able to see to take the dust out of your brother's eye.' 43`A good tree does not have bad fruit. And also, a bad tree does not have good fruit. 44Every kind of tree is known by its fruit. People do not pick fruit like figs from thorn trees. And they do not pick grapes from bramble bushes. 45A good man has stored up good things in his heart, so he says good things. A bad man has stored up wrong things in his heart, so he will say wrong things. The mouth will say what is in the heart.' 46`Why do you call me "Lord, Lord," but you do not do what I tell you? 47`A person comes to me. He hears what I say and obeys me. I will show you who he is like. 48He is like a man who built a house. He dug down deep in the ground and made it stand on a rock. The water in the river came up high. The water beat hard against the house. But the house did not move, because it was built on a rock. 49A man hears what I say but does not obey me. He is like a man who built his house on top of the ground. He did not dig down deep. The water beat hard against it and it fell with a loud noise!' And that sums up the whole issue. We have put elected officials that I warned you all would put us into an economic ruin. It would destroy jobs, kill the middle class, and wipe out the economy...
And yet, many of you knew better, and voted for the liberals.
Are you better off today than you were in 08? Many of you were young, so you don't know what the business world was like then... Trust me, it was nothing like the economic destruction we are facing today. Keynesian economics are a failed belief, "available" is the signage I see everywhere I turn in the business world. BECAUSE of the liberal "taking" from the so called "rich" to give to... Wait, who did they give it too? Oh yeah, "reward your friends and punish your enemies." Those are the words of Obama...
Know the truth and the truth will set you free, as we see in these verses... We also see who is controlling those that lie...
John 8
31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?” 34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.b]'>[b]” 39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered. “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you wouldc]'>[c] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.” “We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” |
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So when Jesus states not to condemn and judge, myriad times in the Gospel, he was referring to judging as a metaphor for something else, and thus judging others is perfectly fine?
So in your opinion, the myriad times Jesus tells his followers, and his audience, not to judge, he was telling them not to spiritually judge, and that other kinds of passing judgement were perfectly fine? When Matthew 7:1-2 says "Judge not, that you be not judged, for with the judgement you pronounce, you shall be judged," it was really only talking about judging someone spiritually, and the rest is fine in the eyes of Jesus?
So when the bible talks about forgiveness, particularly when Jesus speaks of forgiveness in Luke 17:3, saying "If your brothers sin, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times a day, and turns to you seven times saying 'I repent,' you must forgive him," that doesn't count because he just didn't seem quite sincere enough for you? And things not yet addressed: How does the lesson of the adulterer in Luke 8 only count on things that lead to violence, despite the fact Jesus never addressed the violence as the output? The lesson is presented in John as a lesson on judgement and forgiveness, not a lesson on killing. The outcome of the judgement is not the issue. It's the judgement itself that Jesus is taking issue with. The lesson is presented as an angry mob with an adulterer, wishing to condemn her. Jesus addressed the crowd, saying they were all guilty, and that none of them have the right to act as a judge against her. Jesus doesn't even mention death or killing. He mentions condemnation and judgement in John 8: 10-11. So, again, you see no irony in a biblical lesson presented in the form of Jesus addressing a crowd ready to judge and condemn a woman, when you start off a post with:
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Clearly you don't understand what I am saying, so I will post what someone else has said on the subject as maybe they can be more effective communicating what I meant. Matthew 7: 1- 6
By Dr. Richard J. Krejcir Why would you Judge? General Idea: The best way to cover your own sins and wrongdoings is to attack someone who is good, and righteous, because it will throw the dogs off their tracks, taking the attention off you and placing it elsewhere. In addition, a righteous person will not defend himself, as he/she is rooted in Christ, and not in the world. The best way to attack someone is to judge him/her! However, if you are rooted in Christ, such tactics should nauseate you in disgust. A Christian must exercise discernment as well as kindness, and not follow the evil desires of the Will and the world. This is not merely a theory; it is a mandate from our Lord!
It is characteristic of our fallen, human, sinful nature to see the faults in others, but, more often than not, those very faults we point out in others are those we have too! We have to be willing to look at, ourselves, our flaws, and the things we all need to improve on, and place our focus there. Our responsibility is to grow in character, not point out faults in others unless it is done through the relationship of a mentor, and with the disposition of the Fruits of the Spirit. For good relationships to be built, we have to be willing and able to treat others in the same manner we want to be treated.
1. Judge not! There are different types of judgment. One involves being discerning, not allowing harm to come to you or others from those who cause harm. And, along with that, comes sensitivity to potential trouble, attempting to prevent the bad actions of others. This is a service, which, ideally, the church, as well as law enforcement and community involvement, is supposed to do.
a. There is also the judgment/discernment of evaluating the spiritual and mental health of others. But, what Jesus is referring to here is condemning the faults in others to cover up our own faults--especially the ones we refuse to see in ourselves. He also is condemning the practice of verbally attacking others, which will only bring condemnation on us. The imagery that Jesus uses is the market place measuring scale. When we judge, the false, hypocritical, and self-righteous attitude is put on the scales, and counts against us, calling down God's judgment on us (Prov. 19:17; Matt. 5:7; 6:14-15).
i. Consider how severe the penalty for false judgments were in the OT (Ex. 23:6-8; Duet. 16:18-20; 18:19-21).
ii. "Judge not, that you be not judged" is a popular saying in western society, often spoken when someone is pointing out the faults of another, or if one feels someone else is judging him. The secular impression is that we should never make moral judgments in others.
b. However, that is not what Jesus implies. We are to judge right and wrong in some things, such as sin versus virtue (James 4:11-12). There are times when we are called to judge as we exercise church discipline. This is correcting one who teaches in error, and if he/she does not heed the correcting, he/she must step down. Church leaders are called to exercise discerning judgment as to the moral or spiritual condition of the people under their care. This is always done in the character of the Fruits of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22-23). |
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I understand what you are saying. I'm inquiring as to the ends of those opinions you are presenting, as they have no biblical basis.
The thing you posted does not exactly help your previously presented opinion.
I'm perplexed as to how the following:
Is either 1) Helping anyone grow in character, and 2) in the relationship structure of a mentor situation.
Again, I'm confused, as I'm wondering how it pertains to:
[quote]There are times when we are called to judge as we exercise church discipline.[/QUOTE] I'm confused as to which church Anthony Weiner was leading? Edited by agentwhale007 - 09 June 2011 at 4:37pm |
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In apologize for the wonky formatting in that post. The copypasta carried over things from the site it was copy and pasted from.
Also, things not addressed from my previous posts due to the use of copypasta: 1) Was Jesus referring to not passing judgement, in the myriad times that he referred to the not passing judgement in the Gospels, as a metaphor? Is earthly judgement just fine, only spiritual judgement is off the table? This is what you implied earlier. 2) Why is John 8 and the story of the adulterer supposedly about violence now? Are you suggesting that judgement and condemnation is fine as long as nobody gets hurt doing it? 3) Do you see the irony in posting a story from the bible where Jesus tells angry folks not to judge and condemn an adulterer in a thread where you've said things like:
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Again, the example of the woman about to be stoned by the mob, is pointing out how we have all sinned. And the judge not lest you be judged is again, an example of us all needing to remember that we are no better than weiner without Christ.
As without Christ we all are guilty of death for our sins.
Now to you that is probably "judging" all man, right?
Except facts are facts. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, no man is without sin.
To me, that is a fact. And yet does that make ALL men the same?
Clearly not, some men have better character/morals than others, they all still need the blood of Christ to cover their sins, but when we select leaders of our country (a country founded on Biblical principles) we need to look at their character and morals before making that selection.
You are making the assumption that discerning someones character/morals is "judging" them.
I disagree.
Weiner is clearly someone who lies and will only fess up when faced with insurmountable proof of his guilt. This type of person in my opinion
HAS NO MORAL CHARACTER.
He is CORRUPT.
That is not judgement but discernment of his character...
And yes, the Bible tells me over and over to look at people's fruit, and the words coming out of their mouths/keyboards, as that will let you know what is in their hearts. Good fruit from good people, bad fruit from bad people.
According to your argument, that would be "judging" those people... I disagree.
Proverbs 28 1 The wicked flee though no one pursues, 2 When a country is rebellious, it has many rulers, 3 A ruler who oppresses the poor 4 Those who forsake instruction praise the wicked, 5 Evildoers do not understand what is right, 6 Better the poor whose walk is blameless 7 A discerning son heeds instruction, 8 Whoever increases wealth by taking interest or profit from the poor 9 If anyone turns a deaf ear to my instruction, 10 Whoever leads the upright along an evil path 11 The rich are wise in their own eyes; 12 When the righteous triumph, there is great elation; 13 Whoever conceals their sins does not prosper, 14 Blessed is the one who always trembles before God, 15 Like a roaring lion or a charging bear 16 A tyrannical ruler practices extortion, 17 Anyone tormented by the guilt of murder 18 The one whose walk is blameless is kept safe, 19 Those who work their land will have abundant food, 20 A faithful person will be richly blessed, 21 To show partiality is not good— 22 The stingy are eager to get rich 23 Whoever rebukes a person will in the end gain favor 24 Whoever robs their father or mother 25 The greedy stir up conflict, 26 Those who trust in themselves are fools, 27 Those who give to the poor will lack nothing, 28 When the wicked rise to power, people go into hiding; |
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This is a lovely example of the psychological principles of both confirmation bias and selective perception. Well done.
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Jesus, Weiner is a freaking scumbag.
That said, FE definitely mad he gettin' styled on. |
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The bit Colbert did last night was almost too much.
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I see top Democrats, including Pelosi, just asked him to resign.
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Link to below article. My observations are in red for contrast.
Sat Jun 11, 2:35 pm ET
Anthony Weiner says he will take leave of absence, seek ‘treatment’ as scandal growsBy Holly Bailey
Just hours after three leading Democrats called on him to resign, Rep. Anthony Weiner announced he will take a leave of absence from Congress and enter a treatment program. Congress realizes it's short a Weiner! Saturday began with a major blow to Weiner's chances
for survival, The above requires no comment as anything I said based on a "major blow to Weiner's . . . " would get me a strike. as House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Rep. Steve Israel, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, all issued statements urging Weiner to leave Congress. Pelosi, Wasserman Schultz and Israel want Weiner out now! Shortly after, Weiner's office announced that the embattled New York Democrat had decided to enter a treatment program, saying he "needs this time to get healthy and make the best possible decision" about his future. Weiner problems require treatment. (Hopefully not Viagra.) "Congressman Weiner departed this morning to seek professional treatment to focus on becoming a better husband and healthier person," Weiner's office announced. "In light of that, he will request a short leave of absence from the House of Representatives so that he can get evaluated and map out a course of treatment to make himself well." Doctor's to evaluate Weiner! It's unclear what type of treatment Weiner is seeking, but Democrats hinted it's not enough to overcome the scandal and urged him to resign. Democrats say Weiner broken beyond repair--should be removed! "It is with great disappointment that I call on Rep.
Anthony Weiner to resign," Wasserman Schultz's statement read. "The
behavior he has exhibited is indefensible and [his] continued service in
Congress is untenable. Weiner exhibition prevents servicing Congress! This sordid affair has become an unacceptable distraction for Rep. Weiner, his family, his constituents and the House--and for the good of all, he should step aside and address those things that should be most important--his and his family's well-being." Weiner should be put aside for family well-being. (Note: Right or left is not specified.) The developments came a day after it was revealed Delaware police questioned a 17-year-old girl about her Twitter exchanges
with the embattled lawmaker. Underage girl involved in Weiner exchange! Weiner insisted late Friday his dealings with the girl were "neither explicit nor indecent"—a statement the girl's family backed up in an interview with the New York Times. But apparently the report was the final straw for Weiner's Democratic colleagues, who say they can no longer defend the disgraced congressman. Democrats give up on Weiner! Pelosi, who initiated an House ethics investigation into Weiner's activities earlier this week, had refused as late as yesterday to call for her colleague's resignation. But she, too, reversed course Saturday. Pelosi changes position on Weiner! "Congressman Weiner has the love of his family, the
confidence of his constituents, and the recognition that he needs help," Pelosi said. "I urge Congressman Weiner to seek that help without the pressures of being a Member of Congress." Pelosi urges withdrawal to relieve pressure on Weiner! Israel, a fellow New York Democrat, also called his for colleague to resign, saying Weiner's "inappropriate behavior has become an insurmountable distraction to the House and our work for the American people." American public distracted by Weiner! The decision of all three Democratic leaders to go public with their resignation calls simultaneously is a strong hint that back-channel efforts among party officials to convince Weiner to leave Congress on his own have failed. Democrats failed to remove Weiner privately--resort to public action! Weiner has repeatedly insisted he won't leave Congress, citing the support of his constituents and his wife, Huma Abedin. On Monday, the New York Democrat admitted he'd lied about risqué online relationships with six women he had met on Facebook and Twitter. I will maintain that this, the whole Weiner affair, is the best news story EVER! |
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I don't think he should resign. Wawawa he acted like a perv when he was at home.
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BIll Clinton finished out his term...without a leave. |
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Only at home? I'm not nearly as offended by his sexting actions as I am with his blatant lying about them. Edited by StormyKnight - 13 June 2011 at 4:40am |
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....page and a half. That's as far as I got before I physically couldn't read it anymore and had to resort to just scanning posts for things that might need to be cleaned up. I saw that a discussion on some jerk's dong posts on twitter managed to evolve into obama hating Israel, the liberal bias in the media, Jesus, and a ton of this: Point. counter point, counter point, counter point, counter point. |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/06/13/2011-06-13_dmv_sez_his_suv_unregistered.html
"Unregistered weiner" says DMV.
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