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    Posted: 23 February 2011 at 1:33pm
Well this is interesting. 


It's a step, albeit a strange one, to legalized gay marriage. If DOMA has been the thing used as the justification at the state level for not recognizing gay marriage or issuing marriage licenses to homosexuals, what'll be the justification now? 


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It's a slippery slope towards legalized pedophilia. 
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I like slippery slopes....
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Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

I like slippery slopes....

My friend and I were just talking the other day about how growing up in Florida made Slip N' Slides far less enjoyable. They were never quite long enough, so you always slid out into the grass, which was inevitably filled with sandspurs. 

That was usually followed by much pain and tweezers.  
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Well this is interesting. 


It's a step, albeit a strange one, to legalized gay marriage. If DOMA has been the thing used as the justification at the state level for not recognizing gay marriage or issuing marriage licenses to homosexuals, what'll be the justification now? 




>implying that we all agree that gay marriage should be legalized
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Well Rofl_Mao why shouldn't it be?

I won't call it marriage for your sake. What is wrong with two adults joining in a union to share benefits that two other adults already can?
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I feel like this has been covered before.
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Originally posted by GroupB GroupB wrote:

I feel like this has been covered before.


Many times.
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Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Well this is interesting. 


It's a step, albeit a strange one, to legalized gay marriage. If DOMA has been the thing used as the justification at the state level for not recognizing gay marriage or issuing marriage licenses to homosexuals, what'll be the justification now? 




>implying that we all agree that gay marriage should be legalized

>implying that you have the right to make that decision

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>implying that this is 4chan
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Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Well this is interesting. 


It's a step, albeit a strange one, to legalized gay marriage. If DOMA has been the thing used as the justification at the state level for not recognizing gay marriage or issuing marriage licenses to homosexuals, what'll be the justification now? 




>implying that we all agree that gay marriage should be legalized

Grow up a little.
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Oh thats mature. Someone else has a different opinion than you, so you tell them they need to grow up?

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

>implying that you have the right to make that decision

And you do?


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Yes, because your opinion sucks almost as bad as my attitude. Smile

Just for kicks, tell us why you oppose gay people having the same rights as everyone else.


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Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

 
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

>implying that you have the right to make that decision

And you do?

No, and that is the point.
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Originally posted by GroupB GroupB wrote:

Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

 
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

>implying that you have the right to make that decision

And you do?

No, and that is the point.

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Nice thing about this, is the precident it sets.
 
Presidents can now ignore the law if they don't like it.
 
Just like Obama ignored the judge overrulling his drilling ban in the gulf by declaring it no good... Then Obama just writes a new one...
 
And then when that expired, he has the EPA not sign ONE SINGLE drilling permit. Whoot $4.00 gas.
 
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

And then when that expired, he has the EPA not sign ONE SINGLE drilling permit. Whoot $4.00 gas.

The drilling rigs that are already in existence did not magically disappear. 

There is also the hilariousness that is the need to make the discussion about anything but legalizing homosexual marriage. It's like a straw dispenser that one must grasp at. 




Edited by agentwhale007 - 25 February 2011 at 12:06pm
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Nice thing about this, is the precident it sets.
 
Presidents can now ignore the law if they don't like it.


Wrong. He's not 'ignoring the law'. He's accepting the challenge of the law's constitutionality and allowing a court to strike it down on constitutional grounds unchallenged- in short, he's letting it die without a fight. He and the justice department have concluded that a reasonable argument cannot be made for the constitutionality of section 3 of the defense of marriage act.

There's nothing at all inappropriate with accepting the verdict of a court on this. 
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Nice thing about this, is the precident it sets.
 

Presidents can now ignore the law if they don't like it.

Wrong. He's not 'ignoring the law'. He's accepting the challenge of the law's constitutionality and allowing a court to strike it down on constitutional grounds unchallenged- in short, he's letting it die without a fight. He and the justice department have concluded that a reasonable argument cannot be made for the constitutionality of section 3 of the defense of marriage act.
There's nothing at all inappropriate with accepting the verdict of a court on this. 
Plus, he's only saying that the executive will not defend it. This still leaves the possibility that congress can appoint their own council to defend the law if they so choose.
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