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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Ah yes, here is tallen with his typical insults towards me... How fresh and new.
 
Certainly you people can't cry when I say What, are you retarded? to this.

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Well, yesterday the "sick" strike went violent in Wisconsin. A republican senator had the union thugs sicko's screaming obscenities at them while physically pushing, shoving and berating him on the steps of the captiol... For over 10 minutes...
 
Luckily for him a democrat and his aids, helped to bring the crowd down from their boiling point.
 
The video on youtube has lots of language, so it isn't work safe.
 
Another interesting thing is to read all the signs... If the tea party had carried signs like that... 
 
The entire thing is on youtube, tons of footage of this "new tone" from the sicko liberals. Exhibiting exactly what the media was trying to find from the millions who marched for the tea party in the past few years... The capitol is now a complete mess as the sicko's made the capitol their home away from home, and haven't bathed in weeks, and are living inside... Trash is piling up.
 
But, the media doesn't cover that. If it were the tea party doing the same, the coverage would be wall to wall.
 
Now that the footage proof of this type of behavior is clearly the method of operation by the left, I wonder if it will be the top news story today on all the networks...
 
 
 
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It's cute, the constant harping that the media is somehow ignoring the Wisconsin protests. When, in reality, it's just not the kind of ultra-framed coverage that you want to be displayed. Anything to frame the debate in any sort of way other than labor busting. 

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

If the tea party had carried signs like that...
 
Really? Really? 

I've seen a few offensive signs in coverage of the Wisconsin protests. I've said they are inappropriate and distasteful at best, offensive at worst. The Wisconsin Democratic Party has condemned them. 

Now, will you say the same about: 

















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LOL at the irony of that billboard, whale.
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Oh wow, look at that... It's almost as if *both* sides have a fringe element of radical crazies who make the rest of them look like big ol' d-bags! Who would have imagined?
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Waiting for the rebuttal.
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Waiting for the rebuttal.

It won't come. He'll just post some pictures of him BMXing or something similar to kill the thread.
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Oh wow, look at that... It's almost as if *both* sides have are a fringe element of radical crazies who make the rest of them look like big ol' d-bags! Who would have imagined?


Fixed that for you. I think if you could find a true middle of the road candidate that wasn't afraid to speak up and wasn't bat-poop-crazy, then the majority of Americans would be happier to vote for them than the extremes presented by the two popular parties.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

A republican senator had the union thugs sicko's screaming obscenities at them while physically pushing, shoving and berating him on the steps of the captiol... 

And about this, video is now up on Fox News of the "ambush." 

In the video, the protestors surround Grothman and shout "shame." 


But no, thugs and sickos indeed. 

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Yes, both exist, but in a vacuum as the media doesn't cover it when it is the sicko's liberals doing it.

Every one of those pics whale showed were shown on the national nightly news... NONE of the ones I have showed have been on the nightly news.
 
THAT is the difference.
 
Not to mention the complete UNREPORTING of physical violence, threats, shoving, and more, that whale is pretending doesn't exist. I have seen the youtube, I have linked a story that had the link to the youtube. (clearly you guys don't even bother to look at what I am linking, I must have missed that tactic in debate class...). I'm not going to break the rules of the site by posting the actual video as clearly with the profanity laced rants would violate the forum rules.
 
But, if you go to said youtube yourself and watch from 2:00 on you will see not chanting of "Shame" but a group chanting "!*&^ YOU" over and over. Followed by pushing and shoving that got so violent that the democratic senator had to throw out the peace sign to the mob and get them to all start doing that as they were hurting people... Guess they were just throwing the peace sign because everything was peaceful at 2:50 and on...
 
Oh wait...
 
Guess all this is just hyperbole, like the male democratic congressman who was busted for his part in a  prostitution sting  this week... The same week he yelled at his co-congresswoman (a republican) "your blanking dead?
 
Which the major media ignored...
 
Their is no "pretending" anymore that we have an impartial media. They are the cheerleaders for the left, and they hide and manipulate what is covered in the media daily. Pouncing on the right, and hiding misdeeds by the left.
 
The shooting in Germany, where the shooter yelled "Allah Akbar", yet the American media ignored that statement...
 
The 12 doctors (hmm, a dozen is alot more than the 1 whale would admited too... Don't worry the media ignored this fraud as well) who admitted to fraud when they signed "sick" notes for the "sicko's" who are striking because their contract is so important to them... The same contract they are BREAKING by striking.
 
The planned parenthood "sting" video's that the media ignored, yet the prank call claiming to be a Koch brother was aired on EVERY major news station as "news"...
 
And yet, you guys believe it, every bit. Never even looks to at what is clearly evidence against our pathetic media in the States today.
 
 
 
The most laughable thing is the way liberals bring up hitler and stalin and then... "they aren't comparing this to hitler..."...
 
Oh really, that is EXACTLY what you just did. (but as whale said, this is just a small minority, no one really believes this rhetoric...especially not senators from the floor of the senate...) oh wait.
 
 
Don't worry, the media won't cover that either...
 
 
 
 Just "Think" about it.


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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Yes, both exist,

Forget the supposed media coverage here for a second. Your point is that the signs carried by a few are representative of the whole group. You implied so here . . . 

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

not the majority...

ummm....

So which is it? Are the signs representative of the whole group, or not? If so, is the Tea Party, because of the racist signs of a few, racist? Is judging an entire group by the actions of a few a good thing or not. Please, this should be answered. 

Or is this going to be like every other instance where folks unfortunately do bad things on both sides, but only the Democrats are wrong, because, Democrats? 

Quote UNREPORTING of physical violence,
 

Surrounding someone and shouting "shame" is not a violent thing. Nor is it physical. 

Quote profanity laced rants would violate the forum rules.
 

A group of ticked-off protesters using profanity? Heavens! 

Quote The same week he yelled at his co-congresswoman (a republican) "your blanking dead?

Which was reprehensible and wholly inappropriate for anyone, not even an elected official, to be shouting at someone. 


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Personally, I think there is a massive segment of the sicko strike that are clearly not as civil as the tea party, and I find it offensive to even label the tea party in the same way as this group. When the video/pictures prove that what I am saying is true.
 
But, you would never know that by the major media coverage. Care to retract that "they aren't partisan" about the media yet? This isn't lazy journalism...
 
The evidence to the contrary is overwhelming.
 
 
Why is no one calling for the congressmans resignation?
 
Oh, that's right, he is a democrat, and there are different rules... I keep forgetting.
 
I just love how union thugs get to intimidate others with threats of violence, and yet... It isn't considered a problem... Unless they can blame it on the tea party!
 
For example lets look at this article by the AP today.
 
 
At the bottom of the tiny article is this...
 
"Witnesses said Stefanidis and his crew held the group back from the senators,"
 
Why would someone who had NO motive to physically harm someone else need to be held back?...
 
Or why would they (in the video I mentioned) have to start yelling "peace" if it wasn't getting violent?...
 
Please explain that to me.


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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Personally, I think there is a massive segment of the sicko strike that are clearly not as civil as the tea party, and I find it offensive to even label the tea party in the same way as this group.

So I post offensive signs held by the Tea Party but it's not the same as Wisconsin. 

Another instance of "because, Democrats." LOL

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Why would someone who had NO motive to physically harm someone else need to be held back?...

The goalposts get moved back. So, nobody threw a punch, nobody was hit or shoved, but because someone "held the group back," man, it was a terrible case of potential violence. 

I had a longer response written up, but then my work building caught on fire. I'm chilling in a cafe on my laptop now. I don't feel like writing it again, so I'll post it when the firefighters clear the building. 

Or, I won't post it, because the building will burn down. Either or. 
 



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pics or shens...
 
Seriously, Glad you got out OK. Fire in buildings is NOT good. 
 
I think I know what caused it btw...
 
 
 
But seriously. There has been violence, but I'm sure you haven't heard about it...
 
 
"For the past two weeks, the news media have been swarming over Madison, Wis., covering every detail of the public-sector union protests against Gov. Scott Walker's proposed budget cuts, as well as other similar protests around the country.

If you've followed the mainstream press, you've seen lots of civil protests, lots of interviews with reasonable teachers, pictures of signs about the need for quality education.

But have they been giving viewers and readers the whole story? Not quite.
Here's a sampling of what you likely missed:

Uncivil language
  • During the protests, there have been signs comparing Gov. Walker to Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mubarak, even Satan. Some signs featured Walker's face in crosshairs with the words "Don't Retreat, Reload: Repeal Walker." Another held a sign saying "Political Death to Tyrants." (caution, several signs contain adult language).
  • On Feb. 22 in Boston, Rep. Michael Capuano, D-Mass., fired up a union crowd in front of the statehouse: "I'm proud to be here with people who understand that it's more than just sending an e-mail to get you going. Every once [in] a while you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary."
  • In Rhode Island, a union supporter called a cameraman a derogatory term for a homosexual and threatened to have anal sex with him.
  • In Ohio, a union activist called tea party members "corporate butt-lickers" and Nazis.
Violence
  • Tabitha Hale of FreedomWorks was filming a union protest outside their offices in the nation's capital Feb. 23 and was shoved to the ground by a middle-aged male activist wearing a T-shirt of the Communications Workers of America.
  • Fox News correspondent Mike Tobin was hit by pro-union protesters in Wisconsin amidst cries of "Fox News lies" from the crowd, which also tried to block the cameraman's view of Tobin.
Not one of those outrages was apparently worthy of much in the way of news coverage.

For example, a Media Research Center study of 53 Wisconsin stories on ABC, CBS and NBC found that only eight stories visually featured signs comparing Gov. Walker to Hitler, or Mussolini, or Stalin, or Mubarak, or Satan. More incredibly, not a single network anchor or reporter addressed whether that kind of signage was civil or appropriate. And only Fox covered Capuano's "get a little bloody" remark.

Now, compare this to how tea party protests have been covered, and you can see a glaring double standard at work.

These same media outlets spent two years obsessing over every over-the-top tea party sign and mere accusation of uncivil behavior.

Do you remember the claims that tea party activists intentionally spit on Rep. Emmanuel Cleaver (a charge he backed away from) and that tea partyers yelled the N-word at black congressmen (which no one could produce on video)? The mere accusation, the mere suggestion was enough for blanket network coverage.

Do you recall the endless parade of anti-tea-party stories after the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others in Tucson? All of them uniformly denounced Sarah Palin as if she encouraged the shooting. Palin put crosshairs on a congressional district, on the Internet. The Wisconsin protesters put Walker's head in the crosshairs on posters. But Palin was the evil one, and the Wisconsin protesters got a free pass: No one denounced them.

Well, one uncivil action did break through the media blackout -- when blogger Ian Murphy of the "Buffalo Beast" made a crank call to Gov. Walker pretending to be billionaire conservative philanthropist David Koch. But he was celebrated by the press.

On "The Early Show," CBS reporter Dean Reynolds talked about how gullible the governor was. NBC News correspondent Michael Isikoff asserted that Murphy proved the union conspiracy theorists were right. CNN named Murphy "The Most Intriguing Person of the Day."

None of these networks, it's worth pointing out, mentioned that Murphy's article on this prank call was titled "Koch Whore," or that he'd in the past written such things as "If Rove is Bush's brain, may the 43rd president be lobotomized before we string him up."

Why would they, since that apparently wouldn't fit the media's preferred narrative that the pro-union protesters are, unlike tea partyers, champions of civility?"

 
 
 


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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Fox News correspondent Mike Tobin was hit by pro-union protesters in Wisconsin amidst cries of "Fox News lies" from the crowd, which also tried to block the cameraman's view of Tobin.


No, he wasn't

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:46 seconds into your video.
 
Wait, you see the guy come up, make a movement, and the reporter moves like he was hit in the arm...
 
And that isn't a hit to you?... 
 
 
Wowzers. reality check is in order.
 
 
Why would they touch him at all? People that are wanting to intimidate get in peoples faces and TOUCH them.
 
when we start debating the difference between a touch and a hit... and calling people liars based on the interpretation...
 
No one can win that battle.
 
 
We were taught in kindergarden that you don't "touch/or hit" other people...
 


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Which video? I don't see it in either mine or yours.

Oh wait, are you talking about ther person in the santa hat that tapped his shoulder like they were trying to get his attention?


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And that isn't a hit to you?... 

The reporter himself said it wasn't a hit.  The Fox anchor suggested that he refer to it as an "assault" and that he'd been attacked and "battered." 

Swing and a miss. 

That link was a part of my bigger reply that is still sitting on my work computer. 
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

 During the protests, there have been signs comparing Gov. Walker to Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mubarak, even Satan.
 

And the same thing has been done by some of the Tea Party. I posted them. 

I think the ones being used by some of the Wisconsin protestors are insulting and offensive. The Wisconsin Democratic Party has condemned them. 

Are you willing to say the same about those doing such in the Tea Party? 

Quote Some signs featured Walker's face in crosshairs with the words "Don't Retreat, Reload: Repeal Walker."
 

This sign is mocking Sarah Palin's tweet saying "Don't Retreat, Reload." And the crosshairs are a mocking of the infamous Palin map using crosshairs. 

I think the use of those words and that language is insulting and offensive. 

Are you willing to say the same from when Sarah Palin used them? 

Quote Tabitha Hale of FreedomWorks was filming a union protest outside their offices in the nation's capital Feb. 23 and was shoved to the ground by a middle-aged male activist wearing a T-shirt of the Communications Workers of America.
 

An anti-Rand Paul campaigner was tackled to the ground and was held to the ground with someone's foot at a Rand Paul rally. 


I think anyone supporting the unions who have acted violently or shoved anyone is terrible. Such things are not acceptable in any setting. 

Are you willing to say the same about the supporters of Rand Paul? 






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