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    Posted: 25 January 2011 at 1:21am
So here's what little backround info I feel like typing on an iPod touch. I've always been a "pc" guy, buy I've gone through 3 different laptops in 3 years and am overall kinda po'd about the durability issues I've had with my HP laptops.   The current one I own has been sent in for repairs 3 times for the same problem(freezing up) that they fail to repair. With the start of the new semester it is really annoying not having a laptop for assignments/notes.

I figure if they yet again don't fix it I am going to buy another laptop. My dilemma comes down to whether to fork out the extra dough to buy a mac or just go with a different brand of windows based laptop.

I'm leaning twards a mac book pro, thinking that I might as well spend the money to get a good one that's gonna last for a while rather than spending $600-800 every year on another windows based.

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I'm a pc thinking about switching to mac. Convince me one way or the other and tell me about the reliability of your laptops brand
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Also, it should be noted I'm a pharmaceutical sciences major, so it's not like I need the mac for editing multimedia or anything like that. At this point I just want something reliable and durable and am willing to pay for it.
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Why is your laptop freezing up? Is there a legitimate problem with the hardware, or are you downloading truckloads of porn through limewire?

Or, are you hard on the machine? Do you drop it, fall on it, shake it like an etch-a-sketch while it is running?

I am a PC guy, I have no proof that Apple builds their mainboards to a higher standard than the motherboards in the computers I build or buy.

If you wanna buy an Apple, there's nothing wrong with that...but one thing that over 10 years of tech support has taught me is that a majority of the problems that people associate with computer hardware problems or faulty equipment can be traced back to user error...and if you've killed three laptops in three years, then it sounds like it's something that you're doing to the machines, and a Macbook Pro isn't going to stand up to your abuse any more than a PC, it'll just cost a lot more.
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The thing just freezes up anytime it's moved, which is really a pain considering it's a laptop.if it's sitting on my lap and I shift my body it freezes. I don't drop it or use limewire or any other p2p filesharing site, and I keep everylthing updated as need be.

It just really sucks when your trying to type up your paper and your computer freezes 3-4 times randomly during it

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Here's the thing...it's entirely possible that you got a bad machine, or even a second, but three damaged PCs in three years is crazy. It could be that the movement that you are introducing to the machine is killing the hard discs. Hard disc drives don't like movement...in fact, they rather hate it...while most seem to hold up a lot better than they should for the abuse they take, I'd recommend getting a laptop with a solid state drive. They'll be a little more expensive, but the drive won't be susceptible to death by vibration.
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Originally posted by Shub Shub wrote:

Here's the thing...it's entirely possible that you got a bad machine, or even a second, but three damaged PCs in three years is crazy. It could be that the movement that you are introducing to the machine is killing the hard discs. Hard disc drives don't like movement...in fact, they rather hate it...while most seem to hold up a lot better than they should for the abuse they take, I'd recommend getting a laptop with a solid state drive. They'll be a little more expensive, but the drive won't be susceptible to death by vibration.
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My Lenovo T60 has been running almost non stop for almost 4 years now.  I leave it on all the time unless I am moving it.  Both the batteries I have for it are completely shot, but I haven't had a single hardware issue with it.  
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Well, my Macbook Pro had to have $1,100 in repairs done to it, after two years.  But that's just because Apple sucks at building computers.  Also, they payed for it, which eased the pain.
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I ran a mac for about a year before the company wanted us to learn windows 7 and switched us to Dell.

Proper care and maintenance of a PC based machine will see it last just as long as any mac. Far too many machines I've seen "die" are the result of lack of attention paid to updates and basic maintenance.


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I run Windows 7 on my Mac, no issues with it.  The hardware, on the other hand, not so much.

Mostly I do it because I can't game much on OS X, rather than caring about the difference between the two.
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Someone who has that many computer problems is probably causing the problems them selves. I would learn to maintain a windows based laptop and/or buy a more ruggid high quality laptop such as the Lenovo business models.

Then again, if you don't mind paying the extra price for apple, it probably will have less problems then a windows laptop if you don't feel like changing your ways.
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Yeah, I've had Windows PC's my whole life. Granted, I've dealt with some VERY annoying bugs, enough that I almost went for a Mac this time around, but I've never had problems like you're having.

On topic, virus aside, I love my Vaio. Cnet named it one of their top high end laptops, and said they had never seen more high end features than it has for the price. I have no idea what that means, but I trust Cnet
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I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop and Ive had it for about a year now and the only problem I had was my fault cause I stupidly messed with the system 32 (no i didnt delete it lol). But its been keeping me this long, not bad.
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My Lenovo T410 has been a champ for the time that I've had it... their Thinkpad line has some pretty neat durability technology packed in.  Spills can drain through the keyboard, instant hard-drive shut down should sharp movements be detected (seems like you need this...), heavy duty chassis, thick stainless hinges, etc.  I'd recommend one, I love mine.
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Originally posted by Yomillio Yomillio wrote:

My Lenovo T410 has been a champ for the time that I've had it... their Thinkpad line has some pretty neat durability technology packed in.  Spills can drain through the keyboard, instant hard-drive shut down should sharp movements be detected (seems like you need this...), heavy duty chassis, thick stainless hinges, etc.  I'd recommend one, I love mine.

While I haven't seen the spills drain through the keyboard, mine has seen its fair share of coffee, coke and whiskey and has never had a sticking key or other problem.  Only problem with mine is a noisy fan, because it runs 24/7
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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

Originally posted by Yomillio Yomillio wrote:

My Lenovo T410 has been a champ for the time that I've had it... their Thinkpad line has some pretty neat durability technology packed in.  Spills can drain through the keyboard, instant hard-drive shut down should sharp movements be detected (seems like you need this...), heavy duty chassis, thick stainless hinges, etc.  I'd recommend one, I love mine.

While I haven't seen the spills drain through the keyboard, mine has seen its fair share of coffee, coke and whiskey and has never had a sticking key or other problem.  Only problem with mine is a noisy fan, because it runs 24/7

Yeah, I don't know if the older ones had it / when they implemented that feature.  Looking at the bottom of mine, I have two ports for liquid drainage.  Yet to actually test it though... and I'm not about to pour water through it for the sake of saying that I did.





Even though it does make me curious.





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Maybe its just me, but I believe with PC's you get what you pay for.
Example:
My parents bought a $500 Compaq. 32 bit and the whole nine yards. It had terrible issues until they got lazy and decided to get a new PC after 6 months. In addition, since Compaq is an HP company, it had way too many stupid HP add ons. I hate HP's for this.
 
I bought a Gateway FX for $1100 two years ago. 64 bit, 4 gigs of DDR4 (or whatever the newest ram is), copper heatsinks, Nividia graphics card. I updated it to Windows 7. I dropped it once and it turned off, and other than that I have had no issues.
 
So... I say dont buy $600 Laptops.
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^ I call shens on that. My $250 netbook has been a workhorse for me. I carry it with me all the time for work. It's been dropped, a kid spilled some water on it, and it's never given me a second's problem.

And the laptop you mentioned wasn't more expensive because it was of better build quality. As you say yourself, the Gateway is just built with higher specs. More RAM, bigger processor, etc.

I will agree that the crapwear that HP installs is a pain...but if you didn't uninstall all that junk immediately after purchase, then you have no one to blame but yourself.
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