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    Posted: 29 December 2010 at 4:16am
me and my friends have been arguing over this topic for like a year now. which gun is best.
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They're essentially the same gun, so it comes down to just a few things:
  • How you feel about the Cyclone Feed
  • If the "realistic" (or at least more so) looks of the A5 are important
While I like the Cyclone Feed (simplicity is nice) I have always preferred the 98 because I like the feel of the angled front foregrip ad the option of choosing my own hopper.
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A5:
ballbreaks, airleaks around the tombstone and a hundreds of more issues.

do not buy it. its buggy as hell. also their flatlinebarrel. looks good - makes no sense and is annoying like the a5.


got my a5 three weeks ago, leaks air, ballbreaks, waaaay too expensive for such a stressy gun.
will sell it for 50% off to get it out of my sight after tippmann repaired that piece of crap.

the only great thing about it is the 2 year warranty. you'll need it... very very often...
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hmmmm...

seems as if i have been a little bit too fast talking like that.
tippmann has offered some replacement near germany.

so - let's see if the tippi works best as everybody says around here.


will keep you informed.


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I was going to buy the a5 because I heard it's much faster and better for indoor arenas and 98 is good for the woods only is this true or does the 98 do just fine indoors
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Originally posted by Maitz95 Maitz95 wrote:

I was going to buy the a5 because I heard it's much faster and better for indoor arenas and 98 is good for the woods only is this true or does the 98 do just fine indoors
You heard wrong. Essentially the only true difference besides appearance is that the A5 comes pre-equipped with the Cyclone hopper.
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A5 all the way
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A5 is the way to go, have not broke one ball with it, newer version a5 shoots very straight,  just switched to hpa so hopefully well worth it, its not the gun its the player, took out 3 friends all with phenoms with faceshots, gave them a bad time all day.lol.
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hpa will not work as well for the A5 because its cyclone feed runs on CO2/
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It might be hit orr miss, I have seen tons of people having no problem with hpa but have heard online that it could be harder for the cyclone feed system, if so they I will have to change some lines out. I went ahead and just purchased the New Designz TSO "Thread Saver" Inline On/Off ASA w/purge .
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I prefer the A5.  Most of the people have said its buggy and things like that.  The only problem ive had with it is that i broke an O-ring when i screwed my tank in.  i just got a new O-ring for 25 cents and it stopped leaking.  I even use CO2 which everyone says is bad.  once again...no problems.  The A5 is easy to take apart, shoots straight, and ive never had it chop a ball.  Some people might say i have the worst setup...but thats simply not true.  A5 4 life     
Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.
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Originally posted by branmaaan12 branmaaan12 wrote:

hpa will not work as well for the A5 because its cyclone feed runs on CO2/

WHAT?!  proof please.
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Yah i dont think it matters what you use.  the cyclone feed runs on whatever you put into the gun.
Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.
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I made the switch to hp and the gun shoots great, had to turn up the gun up  a little due to it shooting slower but now its shooting more consistent. My friend had a older a5 and he just switched to hpa and he could not get the fpa over 200, so he installed a new spring kit and thing works great, .

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the cyclone for the old A5 is originally made for use with CO2.

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Originally posted by branmaaan12 branmaaan12 wrote:

the cyclone for the old A5 is originally made for use with CO2.


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Originally posted by branmaaan12 branmaaan12 wrote:

the cyclone for the old A5 is originally made for use with CO2.



Incorrect, the A5, like the 98 before it, are both designed to work on either CO2 or compressed air.  (They use pretty much the same internals for the actual operating system.)  However, the valves in both were designed to be CO2 friendly (read up on the CVX valve for this info) as that tended to be the propellant of choice for newer players.  The early A5s did have issues running off of compressed air when accessories were added which required more pressure (such as the Flatline barrel) or increased rate of fire (such as the e-grip).  These issues would manifest as either feeding problems (where the Cyclone failed to fully cycle, low shot velocity, or incomplete cycling of the bolt (as it didn't go back far enough to catch the sear) which resulted in chopping and was sometime blamed on the Cyclone.  The upshot is that these were not the result of the Cyclone being designed for CO2 so much as design problems that were promptly fixed by Tippmann.

With all this said, I do prefer to run my Tippmann's off of CO2.  However, I also like to use response triggers set for high rates of fire and the higher pressures CO2 is generally delivered at in the summer just works better for my purposes.  (On both 98s and A5s.)
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Mack, Ninja is currently making a regulator designed for use in Automags. It has a 1200psi output. Wonder how this would help the RT effect in a response trigger?
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I'll bet that would help immensely.  (CO2 seems to normally run in the 1000-1300 psi output range up here during the summer.  (Based on a few random tank checks with my pressure gauge.)
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They're pretty reasonably priced as well. Only thing is, if you want one, you actually have to call and speak with someone. They don't openly advertise them on their site. Best of both worlds, high output pressure and consistency of HPA.

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