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    Posted: 10 December 2010 at 6:55am
is the x7 phenom mechanical better in performance than the 98 Custom?
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From what I understand, yes, an emphatic yes.  The Phenom is the only tippmann gun running off regulated air (http://www.docsmachine.com/tech/regs.html has a nice description) so the gun is much more consistent shot to shot.  Compared to other tippmann's, there's virtually no kick as well.
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^^^Technically, any marker with a compressed air tank attached to it is operating on regulated air.

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It was my understanding that there was something special about the Phenom flexvalve compared to the other tippmanns and one part of that was what this person at least described as it running on regulated air.  Clearly, all paintball markers have to regulate the air they're fed - if my tank's output pressure is 800PSI - the marker isn't using that 800PSI to fire the ball.  I believe it's that the Phenom's valve has an independently pressurized chamber within the flexvalve and it is that chamber which is being used to shoot the ball - allowing for more consistency shot to shot.
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I have owned 98's since there creation... the trigger on a phenom is much lighter and crisp when you fan the trigger on a phenom it's amazing...
I give the phenom a big thumbs up.. not that the 98 wasn't the most successful production gun ever made it's tough and easy to maintain.. i believe the phenom will be the staple gun for the next 10 years
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Originally posted by FlyByNight FlyByNight wrote:

It was my understanding that there was something special about the Phenom flexvalve compared to the other tippmanns and one part of that was what this person at least described as it running on regulated air.

The Phenom, like many other higher-end markers has a secondary regulator that further decreases the pressure from what the tank provides.  (In this case I believe the regulator is integral to the valve and the operating pressure is around 300 fps.)

Clearly, all paintball markers have to regulate the air they're fed -

No, they don't.  Stock Tipmann 98/A5/X7 markers operate on whatever the tank puts out; in fact, many stock Tippmanns began to have problems if the pressure drops below 800 psi.  (Most basic mechanical markers are capable of operating off of pressures as varied as 700-1800 psi.)

if my tank's output pressure is 800PSI - the marker isn't using that 800PSI to fire the ball.

Yes, it is.  The point of my comment was that the term "regulated air" is misleading.  The tank in your example is providing regulated air courtesy of the regulator on the end of the tank.  If it wasn't, you would have air rushing into markers at whatever pressure (3000-5000 psi) it was currently stored in the tank at.

I believe it's that the Phenom's valve has an independently pressurized chamber within the flexvalve and it is that chamber which is being used to shoot the ball - allowing for more consistency shot to shot.

It has a regulator as part of the valve which reduces the pressure.  A good tank regulator, or external secondary regulator will allow for the same levels of consistency on almost any marker.
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Edited by pepprdog - 04 January 2011 at 7:41am
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