And that is the problem...

 

who is attacking America?...  Muslim extremists.

 

who are we searching with our security? Everyone.

 

Notice the issue... Why check everyone when clearly the threat is from Muslim extremists... It isn't "mean" to search the people that are clearly out to kill you, and not search the non threats.

 

In fact it is logical. Why waste your resources searching young children, when there is no threat from them? Or old women... No old women have blown themselves up killing others...

 

And yet, we pretend that this is making us safer.

 

currently, we have muslim extremists that are typically male... by a large extent. So stop searching old women and children.

 

 

 

 

If I owned a business, and two to three times a year a green person entered yelled about how great his god was and shot up the place.

 

In your world, I would search every single customer...

 

Maybe I could just put in security that looked for the green guys, and searched them.

When clearly the threat was from the green guy...

 

 

Any muslim would understand the problem was from the extreme members of their religion and understand the issue, and added security, as I am sure they wouldn't want to be blown up either...

 

Searching children and old women has only put focus on stupidity of political correctness.

You know how children have this funny little habit of believing most anything their parents ever tell them? They've taught their children their beliefs since they were born, if they knew children didn't get searched because they weren't quite Muslim enough, they'd just hide whatever they wanted to bring onto the plane with the kid. I'm sure not all extremists are single people with no children. Another flaw, since middle eastern looking people (I'm assuming that's what you mean by Muslim) are being targeted by security, they might make it a point to recruit non-middle eastern people for their operation? The biggest flaw, I will get to here in a minute.

Not to mention the fact that what you are proposing is blatant discrimination. The main problem with your theory is a pretty big one though; the fact that the majority of terrorist attacks in the US are not from Muslim extremists, as you claimed. 

On a side-note though: I still don't like the idea of these searches. Honestly, all the various detection methods we have in place right now, what makes them think this is going to work any better?

This.

Stand a Bosnian Muslim next to an Indonesian Muslim next to a Lebanese Christian. Who do you think will get picked out of the lineup?

FE, you have utterly ignored your previous vehement affirmation that Muslims ought to be treated equally to all people. Now you're saying that a fifth of the world population ought to be subjected to particularly discriminatory treatment because of a miniscule minority who share an identifiable trait with them.

Which is it? Muslims are equal to all others, or it is justifiable to profile those who one believes are Muslim? You're contradicting yourself. You cannot say that individuals ought to be evaluated based on their own actions and not because of ethnic or racial traits on one hand, and then say that's it's acceptable to segregate and profile the scary Muslims on the other. 

Either Muslims are equal and shall be treated as such, or they are second class citizens subject to arbitrary social control not imposed on others. There's no middle ground. Which is it?

 

I never said to only search muslims... How do you tell which person is a muslim... or a muslim extremist?

 

If someone is murdered, and you have video of the person who did the murder and it is a white guy, do you focus your investigation on Black women?

 

And yet, that is exactly what is going on in airports all over the country now.

 

Can't have discrimination now can we...

 

That would be racial profiling, boo haa, can't do that...

 

Are you guys really that dense?

 

 

The government has a good idea of the typical terrorist. Search those people... I didn't say ethnicity, as muslims could be anyone, but muslim terrorists aren't 80 year old grandmothers, or 4 year old little girls.

 

So to send them through the naked scanner, or grope them for "safety" sake is rediculous, and a complete disreguard for the fourth amendment. You know those papers that used to mean we had rights...

 

Clearly you guys need to read up on Americans rights, as searching everyone with a naked body scanner, or groping them clearly violates the law, as they can't think EVERYONE is a credible threat. This type of thinking is what is wrong with security in our country.

 

 

 

 

Bri, listen, in debate, when a premise is destroyed by facts, that point isn't continued to be fronted as factual...

 

And yet, you continually do that with stuff like this.

 

brihard wrote: Now you're saying that a fifth of the world population ought to be subjected to particularly discriminatory treatment because of a miniscule minority who share an identifiable trait with them.

 

Many people on this forum have pointed out to you that it is not a miniscule minority, but in fact a large segment of the muslim world that finds no problem with destroying America, and Israel.

 

For you to keep repeating this lie, makes all your points seem disingenuous.

Then who are they? What is the criteria for search in the FEaper world?