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    Posted: 23 October 2010 at 7:10am
Nov 2nd, please vote      
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Nov 2nd, please toke      
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I already have my absentee ballot and plan to send it in.

You will probably will be disappointed with my choices though...

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You mean the CORRECT choices, right?

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The devil weed will kill us all. 
"So when Romney wins in a landslide, what will the liberal media do?"
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Considering the amount of carcinogens....

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lol at a canadian trying to persuade an American vote
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Considering the amount of carcinogens....

"So when Romney wins in a landslide, what will the liberal media do?"
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"So when Romney wins in a landslide, what will the liberal media do?"
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Well, the semantical part of me wants to point out I was still right in saying it hard a lot of carcinogens, the reasonable part of me is going to use updated studies rather than one from 4 years ago.

Such as this one, where 1 joint a day = 1 pack of cigs a day
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/Addictions/8096

Or one that no guy wants-- marijuana use linked to increased testicular cancer.
http://www.fhcrc.org/about/ne/news/2009/02/09/marijuana.html



Is abestos in your attic any less carcinogenic than abestos in your walls?

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I wasn't going to, but now I will. 
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I don't live in CA, but I HIGHLY support this.
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Is it still carcinogenic if you eat it?
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Originally posted by GroupB GroupB wrote:

Is it still carcinogenic if you eat it?
Or vaporize it?
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:


Such as this one, where 1 joint a day = 1 pack of cigs a day

Assuming the study is correct, that, as has been pointed out, is if the marijuana is smoked. 

Secondly, this is a discussion on the possible legality of marijuana. And, as far as I know, smoking one pack of cigarettes is perfectly legal.


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Linus you are missing the point. The ballot isn't about encouraging more people to do it, its about legalizing something people already do in droves and will never change. It would potentially create TONS of jobs, generate billions in tax revenue, unclog the courts from victimless crimes like possession and ideally crowd the prisons less.

Plus, dealers don't check ID.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Linus you are missing the point. The ballot isn't about encouraging more people to do it, its about legalizing something people already do in droves and will never change. It would potentially create TONS of jobs, generate billions in tax revenue, unclog the courts from victimless crimes like possession and ideally crowd the prisons less.

Plus, dealers don't check ID.


Except those claims are just as wild as the claims made by those that wish to keep it illegal.

Medical Marijuana is already legal in California. It is incredibly easy for anyone older than 18 to get a prescription for Medical Marijuana. Voting it legal for all in California wont do much in for the Criminal Justice system because personal possession already results in a just a ticket. The Feds are still going to go after the big distributors who are the ones taking up all the money and space in prison. As for Billions in tax revenues, that is a made up claim since California is already getting the taxes from Medical Marijuana users, whom by at this point (in my opinion) already account for the majority of the marijuana consumer base.

This notion that legalizing marijuana is going to be this wonderful cure all to all the problems, to me, does not hold water.

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Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Linus you are missing the point. The ballot isn't about encouraging more people to do it, its about legalizing something people already do in droves and will never change. It would potentially create TONS of jobs, generate billions in tax revenue, unclog the courts from victimless crimes like possession and ideally crowd the prisons less.

Plus, dealers don't check ID.


Except those claims are just as wild as the claims made by those that wish to keep it illegal.

Medical Marijuana is already legal in California. It is incredibly easy for anyone older than 18 to get a prescription for Medical Marijuana. Voting it legal for all in California wont do much in for the Criminal Justice system because personal possession already results in a just a ticket. The Feds are still going to go after the big distributors who are the ones taking up all the money and space in prison. As for Billions in tax revenues, that is a made up claim since California is already getting the taxes from Medical Marijuana users, whom by at this point (in my opinion) already account for the majority of the marijuana consumer base.

This notion that legalizing marijuana is going to be this wonderful cure all to all the problems, to me, does not hold water.


I am not claiming it to be a wonder cure to everything, at all. I'll put it this way: tons of people already do it, and that simply wont change. This is prohibition again, with something less harmful than alcohol. It's silly to keep something like cannabis illegal when it wastes so many resources and doesn't stop anything.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

And, as far as I know, smoking one pack of cigarettes is perfectly legal.


Cool... and where did I ever say cigs should be legal? I don't recall saying one way or the other on a substance that cost people billions a year in preventable healthcare, takes thousands of lives, is a costly bad habit, and oh, makes me nauseous to be around.

But hey, just because one thing that's bad for you is legal, why not another?





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So why should Marijuana be legal, but not, say, Cocaine?

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You can overdose on cocaine.  
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