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    Posted: 23 September 2010 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

FE, don't you think the government should stop regulating things like the DVD mailing equipment?

It's got to be one or the other.


As much as I hate having to defend FE, what I got from his posts was that he was complaining about the regulations not being enforced the same for everyone which results in an uneven economic playing field.
 
 
exactly...
 
And the results were Blockbuster going out of business (hmm, the title of the thread...) While Netflix keeps growing, and the government keeps eating the additional costs, which go directly to Netflix's bottom line... And we (the taxpayers) just got yet another postal increase... To cover the post office losses on netflix.
 
 
(look at the dates of the stuff I posted, this has NOTHING to do with Obama... it became an issue in 2006-2007, and never was resolved, as the post office just ignored it).
 
You guys have any idea the cost of a patent like that?... You could buy a brand new car for a lot less than the cost of one of those.
 


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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

FE, don't you think the government should stop regulating things like the DVD mailing equipment?

It's got to be one or the other.


As much as I hate having to defend FE, what I got from his posts was that he was complaining about the regulations not being enforced the same for everyone which results in an uneven economic playing field.


That was the mode I was in too, until I realized that the real motive behind his anger was that his "friends" patent was being circumvented. If there were no regulations on the mailing of objects, the patent wouldn't matter anyways.
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Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

FE, don't you think the government should stop regulating things like the DVD mailing equipment?

It's got to be one or the other.


As much as I hate having to defend FE, what I got from his posts was that he was complaining about the regulations not being enforced the same for everyone which results in an uneven economic playing field.
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Only FE would storm into a perfectly good thread, throw in some copy pasta, mention how he is friends with some important person, blame the government, and leave.
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FE, don't you think the government should stop regulating things like the DVD mailing equipment?

It's got to be one or the other.
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Originally posted by GroupB GroupB wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

A friend of mine owns the patent for the mailing device used for mailing cd/dvd's through the mail according to postal regulations.
 
Netflix did not use it, instead made their own mailer, that did not fall inside the government regulations on postal requirments.
 
 
 
 
 
But, netflix got special treatment from the post office including hand cancelling a majority of the mailers. (a HUGE cost to the post office, which was just passed on to the tax payer with the new added postage costs). Yeah, we are all paying netflix's extra postage each time we mail something.
 
 

 

From one of the articles you posted without reading:
"Netflix spokesman said “The mailer is in compliance with the U.S.P.S. currently,” The report from the Inspector General's office confirms that following current Postal Service guidelines,Netflix had been told their envelopes could be processed by the machines"
 
 
Clearly, they would state they were using an illegal mailer... Oh wait...
 
Just trust them...
 
psst, don't read this one...
 
 
"Many similar mail piece designs have been tested since 2002. All were deemed to be non-machinable.  The disk industry soon found that Netflix would be the only postal customer authorized to use the floppy edge design, claim automated letter rates and not have to pay the non-machinable surcharge. All other disk mailers have been forced to receive approval from the postal engineers for their designs or pay the surcharge. [Two rejection letters with pictures are posted on ekeytechnologies.com.]
 
If there were any lingering doubts about the incompatibility of this design with postal processing equipment they should have been eliminated in 2005 when the USPS hired an outside consultant to study DVD mail. According to the OIG report, the consultant found that 77% of one large customer’s mail pieces were manually processed due to its floppy edge design."
 
 
Interesting since that is still the current design, huh?
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

A friend of mine owns the patent for the mailing device used for mailing cd/dvd's through the mail according to postal regulations.
 
Netflix did not use it, instead made their own mailer, that did not fall inside the government regulations on postal requirments.
 
 
 
 
 
But, netflix got special treatment from the post office including hand cancelling a majority of the mailers. (a HUGE cost to the post office, which was just passed on to the tax payer with the new added postage costs). Yeah, we are all paying netflix's extra postage each time we mail something.
 
 

 

From one of the articles you posted without reading:
"Netflix spokesman said “The mailer is in compliance with the U.S.P.S. currently,” The report from the Inspector General's office confirms that following current Postal Service guidelines,Netflix had been told their envelopes could be processed by the machines"
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Berlin Apr 45 the dream reconstruction and take over of the video market, are just another fantasy of a dieing empire.


I've never seen anyone Godwin a movie rental thread before.

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Typical move from the government...


This truly is Obama's Katrina.
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The one here that is having the going out of business sale is selling used DVDs and Blurays for $10 each.  They can't even go out of business well. 
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Going the way of the 8-track and Betamax, adapt or die. We have had Netflix forever, Blockbuster is too far behind the power curve to make it, they are done, Berlin Apr 45 the dream reconstruction and take over of the video market, are just another fantasy of a dieing empire.


They do have Redbox style boxes in some places though, which I would think are even stronger than the Netflix type deals.
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Going the way of the 8-track and Betamax, adapt or die. We have had Netflix forever, Blockbuster is too far behind the power curve to make it, they are done, Berlin Apr 45 the dream reconstruction and take over of the video market, are just another fantasy of a dieing empire.
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A friend of mine owns the patent for the mailing device used for mailing cd/dvd's through the mail according to postal regulations.
 
Netflix did not use it, instead made their own mailer, that did not fall inside the government regulations on postal requirments.
 
 
 
 
 
But, netflix got special treatment from the post office including hand cancelling a majority of the mailers. (a HUGE cost to the post office, which was just passed on to the tax payer with the new added postage costs). Yeah, we are all paying netflix's extra postage each time we mail something.
 
 
They have not redesigned, and the post office is still not machine processing these mailers. At a MASSIVE cost to the post office, and you and me, as we pay for it in higher postage costs. Did you know that for every penny in postage cost increase, direct mail drops by 4%.
 
Costing printers in this country a huge loss of business, all so netflix can get special treatment.
 
 
Blockbuster used the proper mailing device, and since it cost more to follow regulations... It hurt their bottom line, and because they didn't get the service netflix got... It took longer in the mail as well.
 
So they paid twice as much, for worse service from the Post office. Typical move from the government...
 
 
 
 
Bankruptcy just means they will try and fix their 900 million in bad debt, it doesn't mean they will go out of business for sure... I think they will stay around as their brand is pretty strong. They will for sure end up closing a bunch of stores, but some of their stores are quite profitable... And lots of people still rent movies... I read an interesting article about how the online business (which is run separate from the brick and mortar business btw) was hurting their inventory at the stores...
 
 


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Blockbuster has some of those Redbox booths at certain stores. It's just like the Redbox, but instead it says Blockbuster. They are late on the times, and I haven't visited a blockbuster in years.

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I just can't wait until the BB by my house starts selling everything off super cheap. Time to update my movie collection.


The Movie Gallery in town went out a couple months ago. I was picking up Blu-Rays for like $3 and DVDs for around $1. I also bought a few 360 games for $4, needless to say, it was a good day. I wished I would have known about the sale sooner, instead of stumbling upong it on the last day.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

But does Netflix have video games? I honestly don't know. That was why I picked Blockbuster, other than the store return thing.


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Saw it coming as soon as the got rid of the "no late fees" thing.
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Blockbuster sent me a collections notice..for a $20 late fee. It was only two weeks after I incurred said late fees that I got the letter.

I said "haha bankruptcy"

EDIT: And by Blockbuster I meant collection company people.


Edited by jmac3 - 22 September 2010 at 5:37pm
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I have a friend who's mom works at blockbuster as a manager, she told us sometime last year that it wasn't going good for them and she told us about downsizing they were doing.
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But does Netflix have video games? I honestly don't know.

That was why I picked Blockbuster, other than the store return thing.
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