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    Posted: 13 April 2010 at 10:17pm
I am atternding a 'Tea Party' event April 15, and we have recieved word that left wing 'radicals' are intending to infiltrate the event and carry signs and make comments to local media in order to 'confirm' in the minds of America who we Tea Party Members are. Our local 'Rolling Thunder' group has been asked to 'escort' any found infiltrators from the site, and to cover from view any infiltrator groups using American Flags and the noise of the Bikes. NO VIOLENCE...cameras will be covering all of our actions per our legal advisor, lets see how peacefull and non-radical our leftist friends really are.

There are signs stating 'INFILTRAITOR' with arrows pointing to them so the media can not miss them in thier coverage, and we will be close enough so the close in shot used before to isolate only the 'Racist' Tea Party Member will not be possible. and our 'INFITRATOR' sign carried are to stand next to any inflamitory signage carriers, as they are 'escorted' or contained.

We are aware of the website, and the locals who are involved with the 'infiltration' attempt. Nationally simular preparations are being made. Good luck to the infiltraitors, as you try and continue your belief system with 'radical' actions, simular to actions you condemn the Tea Party for. And we are prepared with cameras, video cameras, flip phone cameras, will not be easy to get your version of what you think we are and perpetuate the rumor mills and media mania. To quote Hillary Clinton: "This vast rig..Left Wing conspiriacy will not go un-noticed by the American People."
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I am also attending a Tea Party. I will be one of these left wing radicals
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Imagine that. A left wing 'radical' and you actually feel justified in your actions (as descibed in the counter website) to falsify the reputation of another 'radical' movement. Talk about hypocracy.

I guess as a 'Torry" supporting your King and Court you find a group of 'Patriots' as an illegal organization, and we all know how well that all worked out as a small minority of 'Patriots' changed the status quo in 1776.

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So you are saying George W. Bush is Obama's father?
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

I guess as a 'Torry" supporting your King and Court you find a group of 'Patriots' as an illegal organization, and we all know how well that all worked out as a small minority of 'Patriots' changed the status quo in 1776.
Yeah but those guys were actually badasses, not just old white people who are pissed that "dey took errr jobsss!" (I was gonna add "and racists" but the founding fathers were racists too sooo...)

Anyway, just make the event open-carry and the left wing radical hippies will be too scared to show up.
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Tea Parties are just pathetically stupid. So is any attempt to "infiltrate" them in an attempt to pose as them/ make them look stupid, etc.

They do that extremely well on their own, they don't need more extremists from the other side helping out.
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See that is the medias version, have you been to one Choopie911, or do you relie on the media slant. Have you actually seen any of the video footage of the Left radicals of the 60's and 70's or the Code Pink types, now there is a group of intelligent individuals. Listen to Billy Joe Armstrong's view on Organized religion, another social genius, and the media thinks he is soooo wonderfull. 47 'you know' dah's in the first 3 minutes.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

See that is the medias version, have you been to one Choopie911, or do you relie on the media slant. Have you actually seen any of the video footage of the Left radicals of the 60's and 70's or the Code Pink types, now there is a group of intelligent individuals. Listen to Billy Joe Armstrong's view on Organized religion, another social genius, and the media thinks he is soooo wonderfull. 47 'you know' dah's in the first 3 minutes.


You know everything you say trying to discount the left is drowned out by your use of Code Pink. Anyone rational hates them
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They were the media darlings there for awhile during the Bush administration. Give me an example of a left wing political group that is not in one means, manner or form a 'radical' movement. Listen to Left Wing talk SAT radio and the four letter words alone usually outnumber the actual talking point words. Then listen to right wing SAT radio and try and find one four letter word used in an hour.
Now there alone shows a true cultural differance.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Our local 'Rolling Thunder' group has been asked to 'escort' any found infiltrators from the site, and to cover from view any infiltrator groups using American Flags and the noise of the Bikes.

So you plan on responding to them though an infringement of their right to peacefully assemble and and an infringement on their right to free speech?

Why do you hate the constitution?

And, to be clear, you are part of the TEA Party now, but supported President Bush almost unwaveringly, and have championed Reagan many times, yes? You were okay with a massive increase in spending for a war while tax cuts were put in place, but now that someone is trying to deal with that mess, you are claiming that you are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY.

This despite tax cuts for an overwhelmingly huge portion of our citizenship.

Just clarifying.
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So the use of "four letter words" is what sets the left and the right apart?

Also, code pink has been a laughing stock for years. I'm sure you've seen the video that Rambs posted off of Rob Riggle, from The Daily Show infiltrating them in San Fransico when they were protesting a marine recruiting office.

Code pink is fringe left like tea is fringe right. Everyone in the middle is entertained though. So keep it up.

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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

They were the media darlings there for awhile during the Bush administration. Give me an example of a left wing political group that is not in one means, manner or form a 'radical' movement. Listen to Left Wing talk SAT radio and the four letter words alone usually outnumber the actual talking point words. Then listen to right wing SAT radio and try and find one four letter word used in an hour.
Now there alone shows a true cultural differance.

Yeah, that you're old enough to still listen to talk radio.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

They were the media darlings there for awhile during the Bush administration. Give me an example of a left wing political group that is not in one means, manner or form a 'radical' movement. Listen to Left Wing talk SAT radio and the four letter words alone usually outnumber the actual talking point words. Then listen to right wing SAT radio and try and find one four letter word used in an hour.
Now there alone shows a true cultural differance.

Um, search youtube for "Bill O'Reilly Flips Out,"
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Here is a question based on my beliefs. If I went to a bank and deposited $5000 in my safe deposit box, and 20 years later I want to withdraw the $5000. The bank responds they can only give me $3500 and they opened my safe deposit box and spent most of the money. Now is that legal.

Your answer should be NO, but. Now explain to me the Social Security System and the lockbox promised with my number on it. I will get back only a small percentage of what I payed in, the government spent the rest and gave it to others more deserving? And I bet you will see that as legal.

And now you trust them now to manage healthcare in the same ponsey scheme manner. Can't wait till you are over 60 and needing advanced healthcare, wanna bet on the governments response to your need.

Redistribution of income, and with an extablished 50% not paying any income tax, and getting 'refunds' or credits. My eyes are more wide open to this social utopia called NY, as the 'survivors' of leftist tax policies are moving out as soon as they can, and the response from Albany is not to lower taxes and make it more appealing to stay, but to increase the taxes on the new group of survivors, and repeat the process as needed. Can't punish the tax reciepiant, must punish the tax payer.

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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

See that is the medias version, have you been to one Choopie911, or do you relie on the media slant. Have you actually seen any of the video footage of the Left radicals of the 60's and 70's or the Code Pink types, now there is a group of intelligent individuals. Listen to Billy Joe Armstrong's view on Organized religion, another social genius, and the media thinks he is soooo wonderfull. 47 'you know' dah's in the first 3 minutes.


Those truly intelligent wouldn't associate with a whack job fringe group.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Here is a question based on my beliefs. If I went to a bank and deposited $5000 in my safe deposit box, and 20 years later I want to withdraw the $5000. The bank responds they can only give me $3500 and they opened my safe deposit box and spent most of the money. Now is that legal.

No, but it isn't even the same scenario so I don't see why you're posting it.

Your answer should be NO, but. Now explain to me the Social Security System and the lockbox promised with my number on it. I will get back only a small percentage of what I payed in, the government spent the rest and gave it to others more deserving? And I bet you will see that as legal.

I'm not sure you understand how the system works.

And now you trust them now to manage healthcare in the same ponsey scheme manner. Can't wait till you are over 60 and needing advanced healthcare, wanna bet on the governments response to your need.

"the government spent the rest and gave it to others more deserving," like the ones needing the more advanced care?


Redistribution of income, and with an extablished 50% not paying any income tax, and getting 'refunds' or credits. Those aren't the same as tax cuts? My eyes are more wide open to this social utopia called NY, as the 'survivors' of leftist tax policies are moving out as soon as they can, and the response from Albany is not to lower taxes and make it more appealing to stay, but to increase the taxes on the new group of survivors, and repeat the process as needed. Can't punish the tax reciepiant, must punish the tax payer.

I'm sorry your state is such a horrible state to live in. I assume we can only blame the federal government for that and not the state or local governments.


For the record, OS, at my current job I didn't make enough last year for the federal government to tax my income. Funny enough my W-2 seems to show that I still paid into social security and medicare, just not regular old income tax. Also funny, I'm being given $400 by the IRS.

How much did you pay the government in income taxes this past year? If it was more than $400 I thank you for the free money. I bet they gave me some of FE's tax money too.
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Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Here is a question based on my beliefs. If I went to a bank and deposited $5000 in my safe deposit box, and 20 years later I want to withdraw the $5000. The bank responds they can only give me $3500 and they opened my safe deposit box and spent most of the money. Now is that legal.

No, but it isn't even the same scenario so I don't see why you're posting it.

Your answer should be NO, but. Now explain to me the Social Security System and the lockbox promised with my number on it. I will get back only a small percentage of what I payed in, the government spent the rest and gave it to others more deserving? And I bet you will see that as legal.

I'm not sure you understand how the system works.

And now you trust them now to manage healthcare in the same ponsey scheme manner. Can't wait till you are over 60 and needing advanced healthcare, wanna bet on the governments response to your need.

"the government spent the rest and gave it to others more deserving," like the ones needing the more advanced care?


Redistribution of income, and with an extablished 50% not paying any income tax, and getting 'refunds' or credits. Those aren't the same as tax cuts? My eyes are more wide open to this social utopia called NY, as the 'survivors' of leftist tax policies are moving out as soon as they can, and the response from Albany is not to lower taxes and make it more appealing to stay, but to increase the taxes on the new group of survivors, and repeat the process as needed. Can't punish the tax reciepiant, must punish the tax payer.

I'm sorry your state is such a horrible state to live in. I assume we can only blame the federal government for that and not the state or local governments.


For the record, OS, at my current job I didn't make enough last year for the federal government to tax my income. Funny enough my W-2 seems to show that I still paid into social security and medicare, just not regular old income tax. Also funny, I'm being given $400 by the IRS.

How much did you pay the government in income taxes this past year? If it was more than $400 I thank you for the free money. I bet they gave me some of FE's tax money too.

Free money, or a return of your witholding tax?
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It's a tax credit available to many Americans. And box 2 on my W-2, the one titled "Federal income tax withheld," is blank. I didn't make enough for them to hold anything.
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Without jumping in on this, what is the official goal of the tea party anyway? Impeach Obamunisum?
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