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That guy really needs to book a nice room in Dubai. It's late, but that would be a fun priceline commercial. Especially the part where William shatner breaks into his room and kills him ;)
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

Is it just me or was there not a swastika on that guy's shirt? I saw an iron cross (also used by the Nazis) but no swastika. It's associated with the Nazis but it's actually just the symbol the German military used even before the Nazis were in power. The guy was obviously trying to appear to be (or really was) a racist based on what he said but the iron cross isn't a racist symbol. The swastika was the symbol of the Nazis and that is what is tied to all the crap they believed. Not really an incredibly important detail but it just annoyed me that the guy in the video kept saying "you're wearing a swastika, OMGZORZ!" but it's not even true.


You didn't see the big SS on his back? You know what the SS is? Schutzstaffel. Essentially nazi storm troopers. While it may not be a swastika, it's the same idea


I saw all the German military/Nazi markings (I missed the SS stuff the first time, admittedly. I blame the booze last night) but like I said, there was no swastika which is what the camera man kept repeating over and over. I agree with the camera man, it just irritates me that he's complaining about the one thing that isn't on the jacket rather than all the other symbols. And yes, minor details like that do bug me immensely.
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OS, what amazes me is that you strongly oppose vice taxes because they are a "backdoor tax on the poor", they hurt the poor more than the rich because the poor spend more of their income on them, etc.  Then, you also think that a flat tax rate on everyone is a good idea, even though it would have the same effect.  
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It would, but it would not continue the belief of the rich and poor paying differant amounts. 4% of $25,000 and 4% of $500,000 is fair since each pays an equal percentage, not one paying 0% and the other paying 35%. Everyone pays equal, every bussinaess also pays the 4%, wonder how much revenue will be derived from that option. No excemptions, 4% of annual income, every person and bussiness.
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I thought it would be a lot funnier if the guy with the camera was the infiltrator, harassing real attendees.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

It would, but it would not continue the belief of the rich and poor paying differant amounts. 4% of $25,000 and 4% of $500,000 is fair since each pays an equal percentage, not one paying 0% and the other paying 35%. Everyone pays equal, every bussinaess also pays the 4%, wonder how much revenue will be derived from that option. No excemptions, 4% of annual income, every person and bussiness.

Equal percentages are not practical, because the money spent on other things is completely seperate from the percents.
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$1000 is a lot more important to someone only making 25k than 20k is to someone making 500k.  
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Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

Is it just me or was there not a swastika on that guy's shirt? I saw an iron cross (also used by the Nazis) but no swastika. It's associated with the Nazis but it's actually just the symbol the German military used even before the Nazis were in power. The guy was obviously trying to appear to be (or really was) a racist based on what he said but the iron cross isn't a racist symbol. The swastika was the symbol of the Nazis and that is what is tied to all the crap they believed. Not really an incredibly important detail but it just annoyed me that the guy in the video kept saying "you're wearing a swastika, OMGZORZ!" but it's not even true.


You didn't see the big SS on his back? You know what the SS is? Schutzstaffel. Essentially nazi storm troopers. While it may not be a swastika, it's the same idea


I saw all the German military/Nazi markings (I missed the SS stuff the first time, admittedly. I blame the booze last night) but like I said, there was no swastika which is what the camera man kept repeating over and over. I agree with the camera man, it just irritates me that he's complaining about the one thing that isn't on the jacket rather than all the other symbols. And yes, minor details like that do bug me immensely.



There was a swastika on his shirt. Stop being blind.


Christ this stupid camerman is annoying as hell. I'd rather him leave than the nazi shirt guy.

"You're not with us" The guy probably isn't some "infiltrator". He is probably there for the same reason as them...

"Communist Infiltrator" sign was awesome.


Edited by jmac3 - 18 April 2010 at 7:47pm
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Like the left's hero Che Guevera isn't covered in blood and atrocities, and we always see lefty's wearing the red 'Che' T-shirt as thier official uniform at anti-conservative events. Please the 'Nazi' thing is getting way overplayed, and each side has it's 'nutjobs'. In a purely political sense the 'nationalization' of finance and social structure ala Obama is straight from the National Socialist Playbook on how to secure power. Pick a group to 'blame' (the Tea Party), pick the targeted financier's to fund movement by confiscation(and declasre them evil), wind up the populace with 'hope and change' and it is 1935 all over again.
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I'm willing to bet 80% of "che" wearers don't know who he was, let alone what he did, stood for, or anything about him really. As you said, each side has whackos/ the uninformed.
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Jesus christ OS, do you really believe it is "1935 all over again"?

I don't even think Obama/the white house is attacking the tea party. The tea party is NOTHING in the scheme of things. A bunch of silly old men who think they're being patriots by attending rallies. You know what attending those rallies is going to accomplish? Nothing. When election time comes there will be one major democrat, and one major republican presidential nominee. This will be the same as every other year.

Maybe Sarah Palin will attempt to run. Hell, I hope she wins the republican nomination in a couple years. Good way to guarantee a democratic victory just to piss you people off more.
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You really do not get it do you. By minimizing the Tea PArty, and now with the press and CLinton on board with the stop with the hate speach already, the Hillary Rant;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0 now is no longer applicable.

It is not a matter of 'pissing off people' it is the hyprocracy of this administration and it's supporters. During Bush dissent was patriotic, during Obama it is akin to 'hate speach'. And yes that is also the way the National Socialists handled thier initial power, they trivialized any dissent to the elected "Hitler'. Political science is an interesting study, and yes currently the nation is very simular to 1935 Germany, in the way the administration and congress are handling things, with the alphabet press playing along like enthralled 'lapdogs'.

I would not count of a sure win, with Cap and Trade coming and if congress goes along with that against 'the will of the people' 2010 will be just a prelude, and 2012 will be a slaughter of Obama. His numbers are almost as low as Carter's, and no upward swing to be seen in the near future.

Romney/Palin more than likely will be the ticket, unless a rising star appears, the 'my turn' form of nomination hurt the Republicans with McCain and Dole, and will not be repeated any time soon.

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Any ticket that could possibly put Sarah Palin in any government office, will not have my vote. I simply can't do that to this country.
 
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

Is it just me or was there not a swastika on that guy's shirt? I saw an iron cross (also used by the Nazis) but no swastika. It's associated with the Nazis but it's actually just the symbol the German military used even before the Nazis were in power. The guy was obviously trying to appear to be (or really was) a racist based on what he said but the iron cross isn't a racist symbol. The swastika was the symbol of the Nazis and that is what is tied to all the crap they believed. Not really an incredibly important detail but it just annoyed me that the guy in the video kept saying "you're wearing a swastika, OMGZORZ!" but it's not even true.


You didn't see the big SS on his back? You know what the SS is? Schutzstaffel. Essentially nazi storm troopers. While it may not be a swastika, it's the same idea


I saw all the German military/Nazi markings (I missed the SS stuff the first time, admittedly. I blame the booze last night) but like I said, there was no swastika which is what the camera man kept repeating over and over. I agree with the camera man, it just irritates me that he's complaining about the one thing that isn't on the jacket rather than all the other symbols. And yes, minor details like that do bug me immensely.


There was a swastika on his shirt. Stop being blind.


Christ this stupid camerman is annoying as hell...


LOL, watched it again now that I haven't been drinking and I'm not in class and I'll be damned, there was one. I didn't see it the first time because it's inside the iron cross. Embarrassed

And yes, the camera man, who films like he's riding a mechanical bull and sounds like he's still going through puberty is quite annoying.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:



 During Bush dissent was patriotic, during Obama it is akin to 'hate speach'. And yes that is also the way the National Socialists handled thier initial power, they trivialized any dissent to the elected "Hitler'.
Wow, every political argument on this forum comes down to Bush or Nazis.
 
Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:



Romney/Palin more than likely will be the ticket, unless a rising star appears, the 'my turn' form of nomination hurt the Republicans with McCain and Dole, and will not be repeated any time soon.
 
Please, God, no Palin on the ticket. She's as extreme right as Pelosi is extreme left. The nations is voting closer and closer to the center, and the more these extreme party puppets keep dancing, the more disgusted the people are going to get.
 
The Republicans need to get their act together and stop acting like mid-Bush lefty whiners who couldn't deal with the fact nearly a decade later that they lost the election. So they responded by attacking Bush, blaming every random natural diasaster and act of economic down turn on him, as if he was some kind of evil wizard controlling these things from his lab.
 
 
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Well OS does hold the Godwin record.
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Not really, most of the people leaning left here have said or at one time agreed that Bush was a Nazi.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Not really, most of the people leaning left here have said or at one time agreed that Bush was a Nazi. [citation needed]
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Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Not really, most of the people leaning left here have said or at one time agreed that Bush was a Nazi. [citation needed]

Agreed. I'm having trouble believing you there, OS.
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OS, you should be glad that no Anti-Tea Party people got mixed in with your group.

It would make them look really bad. They would probably hold signs with violent or racist things on them.

Here is the biggest infiltrator of them all.

It's Dale Robertson, founder and owner of TeaParty.org:



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