Apple is at it again

choopie911 wrote: carl_the_sniper wrote: choopie911 wrote: carl_the_sniper wrote: choopie911 wrote: RoboCop wrote: I see a lot of people play games like WoW on their macbooks. No problems at all. I don't see why people have such a fuss over it. It's an old joke about not being able to game on macs. Everyone gets that you can run windows, or mac games just fine now. Question on this actually. Do you still, for the most part, need to buy separate games for osx or do all games work on both windows and osx now? What I meant to say was you can run windows (and windows games then), and mac games (on os x) You do need seperate games, for sure, blizzard is one of the few companies that puts both versions on the same disk (or at least used to?) EA made some thing about releasing titles for mac at the same time, but its not noticeable, or maybe they just dont make what I want? So then why would I buy an apple computer if I was a computer gamer? Since I would have to run windows anyways, wouldn't that negate the only (theoretical) advantage of buying an Apple computer: the OS? Aren't I just left with overpriced, underpowered hardware on a computer running windows? The OS is a big advantage, in my opinion, OS X is a far better and more reliable operating system. Well, more reliable has already been debated on here, generally siding that because of the hardware control, yes it is. But then you can easily run both OS's depending on what you're doing. Also, underpowered? No. I run L4D2, CSS, TF2, BF2, and more on my laptop just fine, and I've seen COD4 on them too.

Reliability is debatable and though I don't necessarily disagree with you (nor do I completely agree with you), I am going to ignore that point. You are tech savy enough I'm sure, that the differences in reliability and ease of use between OSX and Windows are hardly factors. 

I am talking about them being underpowered for the price. Power in this case is relative to price. It wouldn't matter if it could play the newest games on the highest settings if you play twice as much for it than a pc. The fact is that you pay a ton more for lower quality hardware from apple.

There are pretty much three legitimate reasons that I can think of as why a person would buy an apple computer:

1) You are technologically retarded or new to computers and need the absolute easiest software to learn on. (there's nothing wrong with this)

2) You are the 1/10 of graphic designers who use apple computers and actually NEED what they have to offer (Not the 9/10 who seem to think they do)

3) You bought your apple computer as a fashion accessory (Again, nothing wrong with this unless you did for this reason and claim otherwise)

Edited by carl_the_sniper - 27 January 2010 at 12:48am

meh, people kept saying how the iPhone is going to be this amazing gaming machine, and we all see how that turned out. Kind of like the Wii a billion games with maybe 10 that are worth playing.

I missed your reasoning on the Wii = fail comment, please elaborate.

Not quite strato, the Wii is perfect for their die hard fans, and it has ridiculous mass appeal. The problem isn't with that. The problem is that the Nintendo Seal of Quality doesn't mean a thing anymore. Any joe can make a terrible webgame knockoff and get it published, which floods the shelves with overpriced crud.

choopie911 wrote: How does "Genuinely prefers the operating system in every way, as well as the support and coverage offered" not count?

#1 and/or #2

Either that or non-legit.

Edited by carl_the_sniper - 27 January 2010 at 7:12am

The Wii and the DS were both catered to the casual video game user (As opposed to the PS3/360 and PSP) and Nintendo has made bank on both platforms.

I'm not entirely sure they are concerned with the hardcore gamer (Think lots of Mountain Dew, very little social life) anymore, as they know they can get two casuals to buy a Wii or DS for every dork buying a Xbox.

choopie911 wrote: I don't think jesus made my laptop, and when I broke its screen I watched it glow and heal itself.

Edited by God - 27 January 2010 at 10:46am

stratoaxe wrote: I don't think nintendo has marketed to the hardcore genre since the snes...they've always been the family friendly console that put out great, colorful games. But I guess I'm just being old school-like Choop said, it really is a natural progression from what they were to now. You have to adapt or else pull a Sega.

IMO they have done a great job keeping up. Being just a video game company they didn't really have other markets to absorb losses on each console like Microsoft and Sony. They produced a console which could sell originally for $250 and still make money off them, not to mention the tons of games.

When it comes to consoles I am a casual gamer. I do all my FPS action on my computer and leave the Wii to handle more social settings. Yesterday I dropped it off at a friend's house because after work we all end up over at his place. In the past 24 hours nobody has touched the 360 sitting next to my Wii. I think I got them all hooked on the old NES and SNES Mario games again. Hell that's why I bought it, virtual console.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is maybe you aren't part of the Wii demographic. They don't market to the hardcore gamers because they have found more money to make off of casual gamers. That's why Nintendo has sold 56 million Wiis, Sony sold 27 million PS3s, and Microsoft sold 39 million 360s.

stratoaxe wrote: A couple of things on this- b:) FE, before you declare the Wii a marvel in marketing, consider a couple of factors. For one, life expectancy of a console. Both Sony and MS are still early on in their life cycles. The Wii, on the other hand, has gaming-wise, peaked. Number two goes back to quality and is implied by point one. To KEEP UP that kind of sales rate, the Wii would have to remain valid technology wise, long past it's initial price job. The others will, Wii won't. I see what you guys mean sales wise,and I agree it has done well, but sales are only a portion of the picture here

Really? Never heard of 360 parties are you joking?

Maybe its the age difference but i've never actually heard of an organized wii party. Yet there have been countless 360 parties that I have heard about.