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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


Actually he just agreed with me and jmac.
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

LOL YOU CALLED ME IGNORANT HOW CLEVER OF YOU
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Is he Christian? Is he in the public? Then yes he does.
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Yes one moron does. Especially when that moron is very visible.

Osama Bin Laden represents Muslims because he is visible to the world(kind of?)
 
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Yes he does represent Christians whether you like it or not.

It does not matter if there are 432343423423423423 different types of Christians who don't agree with him. The man represents the faith he subscribes just by standing up and saying he does.
 
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

No it is not different. To people who don't know the difference the man represents Christians.
Just like Osama Bin Laden earlier. To the ignorant he is what all Muslims are like.

 
 
 
 
 

 


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Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


Actually he just agreed with me and jmac.

I just skipped most of jmac's posts and skimmed yours, so if you were also saying that this preacher is not representative of Christianity and that type of silly evangelical preaching is a stereotype or blanket view to the ignorant of what Christianity believes in, rather then a legitimate representation, then sure.

I will agree though, that this man is a fair representation of the particular branch of Christianity he preaches for.
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Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


Actually he just agreed with me and jmac.
How so? I believe the preacher is contributing to a stereotype. I in no way at all stated the preacher is a representative of Christianity as a whole. You may consider the terms to be synonyms, but I do not.
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LOL DID YOU QUOTE ME AND CALL ME IGNORANT?

HOW CLEVER OF YOU
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:



I will agree though, that this man is a fair representation of the particular branch of Christianity he preaches for.


Which to people who don't know the difference is representative of all Christianity.


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I'm fairly confused as to how you stand by such comments, claim that they only apply to ignorant people, and then again stand behind them again.

Troll is troll.


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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Of course! This moron represents all Christians, right?


Is he Christian? Is he in the public? Then yes he does.



Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:



I will agree though, that this man is a fair representation of the particular branch of Christianity he preaches for.


Which to people who don't know the difference is representative of all Christianity.


...So do you or don't know know the difference? You've asserted that he is a representative of Christianity. And yet you've said that only people who don't know the difference believe that.

The only logical solution is that you know that you don't know that there's a difference..?

The alternatives are that you're just kind of slow, or that you're deliberately troling (and succeeding), but committing the unforgivable forum sin of failing to amuse. 

Trolling religious folks CAN be funny if a) they're SRSBUSINESS! enough and b) you do in in a funny way, but so far you're swinging and missing...
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

LOL DID YOU QUOTE ME AND CALL ME IGNORANT?
I think you've done a good enough job of that on your own.
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Brihard, I know he is not what all Christians are like. This does not change the fact that to others he is seen as what Christians are. Why is that so hard to understand?


Him standing on TV as a Christian and publicly doing stupid things makes people think that is what Christians do.

Some examples:

Go to a sporting event. Sit next to a rude/rowdy fan. Now I would know that he isn't what all fans are like. Someone else might sit next to him(maybe from another state rooting for the away team) and be like "OMG THAT TEAM'S FANS ARE ALL A-HOLES"

Or how about someone like FE? Yes we know he isn't what all Republicans are like, but people like him gives Republicans bad names. In fact Sneaky I am pretty sure you have said as much. If FE isn't what Republicans are like, how is he giving them bad names?
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Brihard, I know he is not what all Christians are like. This does not change the fact that to others he is seen as what Christians are. Why is that so hard to understand?


Him standing on TV as a Christian and publicly doing stupid things makes people think that is what Christians do.

Some examples:

Go to a sporting event. Sit next to a rude/rowdy fan. Now I would know that he isn't what all fans are like. Someone else might sit next to him(maybe from another state rooting for the away team) and be like "OMG THAT TEAM'S FANS ARE ALL A-HOLES"

Or how about someone like FE? Yes we know he isn't what all Republicans are like, but people like him gives Republicans bad names. In fact Sneaky I am pretty sure you have said as much. If FE isn't what Republicans are like, how is he giving them bad names?

Then by your logic, your posts here make all Americans look like idiots who can't debate a point in a coherent manner. Fortunately I know that not to be true. So then what you really mean to say is that him standing on TV and saying stupid stuff makes stupid people think that all Christians are like that..

You started out by saying 'yes he does' in response to the matter of 'does he represent all Christians?'. You can't suddenly go back and put caveats on your statement retroactively without admitting that you've contradicted yourself.
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Yes that logic is correct Brihard. Exactly. The thing is you know this not to be true. Someone elseonly exposed to my posts would not know this therefore I represent Americans on the Internet.

And no not stupid people, ignorant people, as in people who don't know any better.

I am still saying yes he does, I have not contradicted myself.
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Only people with very small intellects think that one person represents the whole.
and Jmac, you continue to fail at seeing the point I have posted several times now where I said that stereotypes =/= representatives. Can people help further the stereotypical image? Of course. But it is still incorrect by my definition to say that he is a representative of christianity as a whole. I think our real issue lies in a conflict of terminology, which I have adressed two or three times now... But if the troll must continue to kick the dead bronco, let him continue.
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Sneaky to go back and quote Eville

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

This group its self is not a stereotype, but representative of christianity that people may use to form stereotypes.  He could be a basis for a stereotype, but is not the stereotype himself.
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Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


Actually he just agreed with me and jmac.
How so? I believe the preacher is contributing to a stereotype. I in no way at all stated the preacher is a representative of Christianity as a whole. You may consider the terms to be synonyms, but I do not.


Re read my posts.  Being representative and being a representative are two different things.
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Sneaky to go back and quote Eville

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

This group its self is not a stereotype, but representative of christianity that people may use to form stereotypes.  He could be a basis for a stereotype, but is not the stereotype himself.
Agreed. He is very much the basis for a stereotype. Even still, that does not, by my terminology make him a representative of the Christian religion. I don't know why you refuse to accept that this entire argument is a difference of our own personal terminology...
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I am not saying he is representative, I am saying that to some people he is a representative.  Not that difficult of a concept to grasp.
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Of course! This moron represents all Christians, right?


Is he Christian? Is he in the public? Then yes he does.
Is that like saying L. Ron Hubbard represented all Christians?
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