Xmas PC Upgrading

Benjichang wrote: agentwhale007 wrote: Rofl_Mao wrote: Macs cost too much. It's like saying Mercedes cost to much compared to a Civic You get what you pay for. That's debatable.

Of course there are other factors involved in it, like what you simply need it for.

That said, going off of my own experiences, I have had my currently laptop for four years, and there has been no hardware of software problems.

Exactly two things have gone wrong. One was cosmetic - the plastic turned a funny color on the palm rests due to bad plastic, and the other was my Magsafe cord melting.

The computer itself has been nearly flawless.

agentwhale007 wrote: Benjichang wrote: agentwhale007 wrote: Rofl_Mao wrote: Macs cost too much. It's like saying Mercedes cost to much compared to a Civic You get what you pay for. That's debatable. Of course there are other factors involved in it, like what you simply need it for. That said, going off of my own experiences, I have had my currently laptop for four years, and there has been no hardware of software problems. Exactly two things have gone wrong. One was cosmetic - the plastic turned a funny color on the palm rests due to bad plastic, and the other was my Magsafe cord melting. The computer itself has been nearly flawless.

My PC has been flawless for the 3.5 years I have owned it.  I built it when I graduated from high school and am now in the process of updating it a wee bit.


Edited by pntbl freak - 15 December 2009 at 5:37pm

pntbl freak wrote: My PC has been flawless for the 3.5 years I have owned it.  I built it when I graduated from high school and am now in the process of updating it a wee bit.

Desktops are a different story. I'm talking about laptops.

I would love to have a Macbook Pro.

My current laptop has been with the IT guy for a week.
He either sux, or I really screwed something up this time.

ParielIsBack wrote: But they use the highest quality components of anything I've used or seen

bravecoward wrote: HV used to be the "porn guy"

Streaming video has come such a long way.

Darur, see the cpu itself won't need a new cooler but I am considering a shiny new Zalman fan because it moves more air around in the case. It would keep the chip a little cooler but really I'm looking at one to help cool my RAM and the back of my video card.


Edited by High Voltage - 18 December 2009 at 1:24am

High Voltage wrote: Darur, see the cpu itself won't need a new cooler but I am considering a shiny new Zalman fan because it moves more air around in the case. It would keep the chip a little cooler but really I'm looking at one to help cool my RAM and the back of my video card.

Edited by Darur - 18 December 2009 at 1:35am

Darur wrote: Apple uses the exact same hardware as every other vendor.  They use Intel Processors, Nvida or ATI/AMD Video cards, Whatever brands of RAM/HDD are cheapest at the moment, etc.  The only proprietary hardware on an Apple computer is the motherboard, which is has a few proprietary parts to allow OS X to be installed.  Thats it.  I'll give you that they may have pretty screens, but I don't generally consider the screen in terms of performance.  Bodies, keyboards and mice are peripherals and aesthetics, they do not make your computer run faster.  Yes, the hardware they use conforms to the product spec.  They don't just drop in ATI and Nvidia cards when one is cheaper then the other. But if its a choice between Corsair XMS ram or Kingston generic, both of which perform the exact same for those conditions, you bet they'll use the cheaper RAM, just like every other vendor.  The same is true of hard drives and other parts.

So the other parts don't matter because you don't want them to matter?  Is that your argument?  Bodies, keyboards, and mice are part of what sell Macs.

I'm not claiming that they're using proprietary hardware, I'm claiming that they don't use whatever crap Seagate is sticking in their hard drives.

Quick question: do you actually use a computer?

You can build a Hackintosh on Newegg.  I suggest you go look up what parts are compatible first, because mainly the list of motherboards is a short one.  And don't expect to run the newest version of OS X (I don't anyway, so it wouldn't really be a problem).

Vista was, is, and forever will be a crappy OS.  Just because it can actually run reasonably on faster computers does not mean that it's all of a sudden "better", or even decent.

Microsoft is the one who certifies what hardware can run their OS'es.  If they want to make bad decisions, that's a horrendous marketing scheme for them, because as Vista showed, people will talk about it.

I fully understand how OS'es work, thanks. 

My point is that you're looking at Mac and saying "Oh, that's just an overpriced PC".   It's not.  It caters to different people, who care about things like peripherals, simple customer support, and essentially seamless computing.  That's the reason Apple is making so much money -- not because they somehow convinced people to buy overpriced PCs.  You should talk to Dell, Alienware, and a host of other idiotic PC manufacturers for that one.

Stick staying in my ass.

You've basically pulled out every uninformed hard core PC-user reason for not buying a Mac, and ignored my point entirely.

And that's coming from someone who uses Windows 90% of the time.