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We still don't know what happened before.

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Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

We still don't know what happened before.

Nothing possibly could have happened before to warrant that course of action.  If you can think of something, feel free to share.
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Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

We still don't know what happened before.
You don't seem to be getting the message.
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Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

We still don't know what happened before.
You don't seem to be getting the message.


Thats a first
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Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

We still don't know what happened before.


Looks like he was talking back...remember that time cops were allowed to electrocute someone for talking back?

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Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:


Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:


We still don't know what happened before.
Nothing possibly could have happened before to warrant that course of action.† If you can think of something, feel free to share.


That will hold up in court.
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ok guys, we are getting into a lot of what if's.  We do know that the suspect had his hands on the hood of the patrol vehicle and the officer walked up and hit him with the taser.  It appears that the suspect was talking with the officer.  That is all we know right now.
 
The way it looks from the vid.  The officer APPEARS to be in the wrong.  As I said before there are officers who will use force with out justification.  There are bad cops out there.
 
This officer MAY have known this suspect.  This suspect  MAY be known to carry weapons.  This suspect MAY be known for fighting for fighting / assaulting officers.  The suspect MAY have said someting along the lines of "I'll only go back in a bodybag." 
 
Like I said there are a lot of may be's and what if's.  Without knowing what happened prior we can play the armchair QB all day and night long.  I don't know what happened before the vid so I can't defend or condem the officer.  I will not say that he did right or wrong with out knowing what he knew at the time of the incident.
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I suspect if the guy said he was only going back in a body bag, or was going to shank the cop, he would have probly made some kind of a move by now instead of standing there with his hands on the hood of the car.
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Eville and I are both criminal justice majors, we know what we're talking about when it comes to tasing a damn suspect who isn't resisting.
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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Eville and I are both criminal justice majors, we know what we're talking about when it comes to tasing a damn suspect who isn't resisting.


So, you've read this stuff in books, have no real world experience with it, but you're an expert on the subject?

Note, this isn't saying that I agree with tasering* unarmed suspects or that the cop was right in this instance.  I just have an issue with the statement made above.

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I didn't say the Officer was correct in the matter. 
Sneaky:  a lot of the time a suspect will start to resist when the officer is attempting to handcuff him.  Yes a lot of suspects will run, but some will do what they are told untill the officer attempts to put the cuffs on...then the fight is on.
 
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Originally posted by Flurry Flurry wrote:

I didn't say the Officer was correct in the matter. 
Sneaky:  a lot of the time a suspect will start to resist when the officer is attempting to handcuff him.  Yes a lot of suspects will run, but some will do what they are told untill the officer attempts to put the cuffs on...then the fight is on.
 
As I said in my last statement.  "I' will not say he did right or wrong without knowing what he knew at the time."
Until he starts to fight back, he has absolutely no excuse to use that taser.
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I wonder what this cops high score on wii bowling is?

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"On April 30, police say Ruiz standing on a planter near the Second Precinct headquarters. He was accused of throwing a landscaping brick at a police officer's personal car."

Obviously still don't have the full story, but it looks to me like the cop was trying to get a little personal revenge on the suspect.  The suspect claims he wasn't resisting at all before that, as credible as that may be.
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Originally posted by Frozen Balls Frozen Balls wrote:

I wonder what this cops high score on wii bowling is?
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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Eville and I are both criminal justice majors, we know what we're talking about when it comes to tasing a damn suspect who isn't resisting.



Yet me, who is a CJ major further into studies and with a degree, CJ explorer for 2 years, a working EMT, and a soon-to-be Paramedic, knows nothing according to you? I have actual real-world implementation of what I learned, so does that instantly mean I'm right and you're wrong?



Don't use education to back your view up if you don't know the facts surrounding the case, which you, sir, do not.

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No need for facts when a man is standing there with his hands on the vehicle.
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Oh, so you can believe everything you see on tape nowadays without question?


Good to know.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Oh, so you can believe everything you see on tape nowadays without question?


Good to know.
Well of course, the police edit their video tapes to make their officers look bad all the time.
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Yet, it was the lawyer of the supposed victim here that turned over a blatantly short videotape that shows the seconds just before and just after the incident, and nothing else... as if they were trying to hide something themselves.



Funny.

Edited by Linus - 09 November 2009 at 12:58am

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