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No, you don't need to have any guns listed on a permit in ohio.
 
And I do have a conceal carry license.
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are you in possession of this handgun?  you did not answer my question about the permits...
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Its not my gun. And Ohio is very gun friendly.
 
Here is some info on wiki about hamilton ohio.
 
 
In the 1920s, many Chicago gangsters had second homes in Hamilton. This gave Hamilton the nickname "Little Chicago". Some appeared to have invested in what became an active district of gambling and prostitution. John Dillinger was documented as a visitor to Hamilton.
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Did he give you a serial number with out you giving it to him first?  Don't get your hopes up...you might just have a pistol that some one stamped into the side John Dillinger 1934.  Either way, you have a pistol for your collection.  My question to you is, do you need a pistol permit in your home state?  IF you do, you may be commiting a felony by not having this pistol on your permit.
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yet...
 
I just started researching this when I first posted. That stuff takes time.
 
Dillingers grandson did say he had paperwork on this gun, so that will be interesting to see what he has.
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You have no paper work...no police report stating this was one of Dillinger's pistols captured at......by Officer...

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right, if it is a fake...
 
Its not worth much. But, you have to remember, one of dillingers hideouts is here in my town, (about 2 miles from where I am sitting right now). Hamilton Ohio was called "little chicago" back then.
 
 
and it actually sold for $95,600
 
 
 
 
 
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Edit: I like how that last letter is from some guy on the Playboy forums...


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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:


Now, I gotta figure out what it is worth...


Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:


value... $50-$75.

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FE, more than likely it is a fake.  
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Talked to John Dillingers grandson yesterday, and he thinks he has some papers on this gun, and is pretty sure it is legit...
 
Plus he is very interested in buying it...
 
Now, I gotta figure out what it is worth...
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Ok... So the mystery has deepened. Today my friend brought in the grips... With a bunch of letters.
 
And I have MORE questions than answers, and I am starting to become a believer that this was actually John Dillingers gun...
 
Turns out a guy I met yesterday also has a dillinger gun with his name under the grip... (colt 32).
 
This gun is old enough (1910-1920).
The serial number doesn't match anything else, (barrel has a different number, as does frame under grip number... All different punch numbers...)
 
And ruby arms was removed, (I micrometered it and one side is thinner than the other side).
 
If you were a criminal, and you wanted a gun that couldn't be traced, you would do exactly what was done to this gun, you could even carry barrels and just switch them out after they were used in a shootout... Since switching the barrel takes about a second.
 
Also, John Dillinger loved his status, and was eccentric enough that he might have had his name stamped on his gun for kicks, expecially since it is under the grips where no one would ever see it unless the grips were removed.
 
 
 
And this gun, was in the Dillinger museum... (they gave me the letters that go with this gun today)
 
 
Here is a sample of one of the other letters...
 
 
Interesting...
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neat little piece. we have a calvery sword from the cival war in my family. dont remember what its worth but saw it on the pawn stars show on the history channel.
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I was impressed...

 
Kind of funny, I was in their office at the military weapons area and there was this cool tiffany sword sitting on the shelf. I asked if I could pick it up, and he said "Sure"... It was pretty cool... later, when I got back to my office  I looked in the auction book and realized it was worth between $20,000-$30,000!
 
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So, I took it over to cowans, and the weapon expert took a look at it, and told me it is a Ruby Arms .32 acp, manufactured (need to do a serial number search to verify year) from between 1910-1920. He thought the manufacturer name was ground off...
 
value... $50-$75.
 
Got to see some really cool stuff though, as their next firearms auction is November 4-5...
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not yet... I thought for sure my gun guy would know. He seems to think it was ground off, as you can see buffing marks on it... But, I don't think that is true, as you would have to take off a lot of metal to remove a mark, and it doesn't look like any has been removed. buffed yes, ground down, no...
 
Plus the fit and finish is very nice, not typical of a cheap knock off.
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but no make or manufacturer?
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hmm...
 
Well, I took it to my local gun guy, who has been able to answer every question I have had over the years... And he told me he only ever saw one gun with "John Dillinger" stamped into it under the grips, picked up the phone, and in less than a minute I was talking to the owner...
 
His was older than this one but both were .32's His was a colt though... He said he has been thinking about talking to Cowans Auctions here in Cincinnati to have it researched...
 
I know Wesley Cowan, as he has sold some of my family stuff over the years, so I think I will drop him an email and see what he knows about it.
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