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    Posted: 09 October 2009 at 12:31pm
Well, this morning at 7:30 am, the first craft smashed into the moon. It only cost $78 million of your tax dollars.
 
Then they smashed a second into the moon...
 
 
That is a great example of how the government wastes your tax dollars. I guess asking the guys on mythbusters to take a crack at it was out of the question... Gotta fund Nasa, especially when businesses are closing daily in America...
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Actually, I've gotta say that this is a worthwhile use of taxpayer's dollars. Better to spend 156 million doing this kind of search than to send manned missions which cost much, much more.

At some point the human race is going to have to leave the earth behind us. And we're going to need to be orbiting some other star or stars in a relatively short amount of time if we wish to survive and carry on. Within 200 million years the earth isn't going to be habitable anymore. Our own sun will be too hot by that time and all the oceans will have boiled away leaving earth a hot, lifeless rock. If you can't have the foresight to see that space exploration is the only hope for the continued existence of our race, then perhaps you can understand that the gains made for the US economically from this research will trump the short-term gains that may have been made with what is, let's face it, a paltry sum of money in the grand scheme of things. More is spent repaving roads that don't need it in the US every DAY than was spent on this shot to find water to produce fuel on the moon.
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Do you have any idea how many people NASA employs? 0ver 17,000, not including jobs created through contracts.  But you are right, we should probably just take the socialist approach and fund all of the small businesses.  
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They made the rocket out of money? That doesn't seem efficient. No wonder I couldn't see the explosion on tv.

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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Well, this morning at 7:30 am, the first craft smashed into the moon. It only cost $78 million of your tax dollars.
 
Then they smashed a second into the moon...
 
 
That is a great example of how the government wastes your tax dollars. I guess asking the guys on mythbusters to take a crack at it was out of the question... Gotta fund Nasa, especially when businesses are closing daily in America...


Total mission cost =/= satellite cost.  Total mission cost was $79 million, I'm betting the spent more than a million on other things.

Also, hate to burst your bubble, but defense spending (since NASA works mostly with defense-related companies) makes huge numbers of jobs in this country.

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I'm not sure I will ever understand modern conservatism's hatred of science and intelligence. 
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Actually, I've gotta say that this is a worthwhile use of taxpayer's dollars. Better to spend 156 million doing this kind of search than to send manned missions which cost much, much more.

At some point the human race is going to have to leave the earth behind us. And we're going to need to be orbiting some other star or stars in a relatively short amount of time if we wish to survive and carry on. Within 200 million years the earth isn't going to be habitable anymore. Our own sun will be too hot by that time and all the oceans will have boiled away leaving earth a hot, lifeless rock. If you can't have the foresight to see that space exploration is the only hope for the continued existence of our race, then perhaps you can understand that the gains made for the US economically from this research will trump the short-term gains that may have been made with what is, let's face it, a paltry sum of money in the grand scheme of things. More is spent repaving roads that don't need it in the US every DAY than was spent on this shot to find water to produce fuel on the moon.


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Originally posted by  Rp Fr Rp Fr wrote:

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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

I'm not sure I will ever understand modern conservatism's hatred of science and intelligence. 


Excuse me sir, I have detected some stereotyping in your post.


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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

I'm not sure I will ever understand modern conservatism's hatred of science and intelligence. 
Not sure myself...
 
Also, I don't think the ppl at mythbusters are rocket scientists... but I guess in FE's world, its all the same.
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NASA's budget is not as big as most people are led to believe.  In fact, it is about half a percent of the federal budget.  The things NASA and the subsidized contractors have and are doing for humanity are worth far more than half a percent.

I guess it ultimately comes down to what you think is valuable; I personally think knowledge is the most valuable thing one can have.


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There's no way FE could be that stupid you guys, I smell a troll.
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NASA did give us Tang and velcro after all.
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and im sure if the rocket was crashed during a republican presidency you would embrace it with open arms
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

I'm not sure I will ever understand modern conservatism's hatred of science and intelligence. 

How is this even remotely a partisan issue? I'm sure there are Democrats that would have said the same thing. Generalizations aren't nice Whale.
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Originally posted by NASA NASA wrote:

In April 2006, NASA selected the LCROSS proposal for a low-cost, fast-track companion mission to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO).

Damn, guess we have to blame Bush for this waste of tax dollars.
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Not to interrupt, but did I miss where FE blamed this on liberals or Obama? I think this was a general rant against, in his opinion, wasteful government spending. Which I will have to admit,  even with my general support of NASA, I find a little disturbing that we spent 79mil trying to figure out if there is water on the moon.

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Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Not to interrupt, but did I miss where FE blamed this on liberals or Obama? I think this was a general rant against, in his opinion, wasteful government spending. Which I will have to admit,  even with my general support of NASA, I find a little disturbing that we spent 79mil trying to figure out if there is water on the moon.

That he blames on the left all the time.

My post wasn't super serious, calm down noob.


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Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Not to interrupt, but did I miss where FE blamed this on liberals or Obama? I think this was a general rant against, in his opinion, wasteful government spending. Which I will have to admit,  even with my general support of NASA, I find a little disturbing that we spent 79mil trying to figure out if there is water on the moon.

That he blames on the left all the time.
So now we are generalizing? Isn't that what you often blame him for? Irony is ironic!
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Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Not to interrupt, but did I miss where FE blamed this on liberals or Obama? I think this was a general rant against, in his opinion, wasteful government spending. Which I will have to admit,  even with my general support of NASA, I find a little disturbing that we spent 79mil trying to figure out if there is water on the moon.
 
 
because in FE's world, the government=obama and the radical lefties
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And I normally think guys that drive Firebirds are mullet wearing rednecks, but you seem ok. Aren't generalizations great?
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