We ought to ban hunting...

jmac3 wrote: __sneaky__ wrote: jmac3 wrote: __sneaky__ wrote: Rofl_Mao wrote: I'm telling you, he doesn't care about human deaths. He only cares about the animals living. I didnt realize jmac was a member of PETA. I care about human deaths. I don't really care about animals dying. You have it backwards. Point is deer aren't running into the road to kill people. They are running into the road to cross the huge ass road put in the middle of their habitat. People are going into woods just to kill them. I am not a member of PETA. Reb, environmental benefits? Oh sorry killing animals to stop them from dying must be a benefit... Does that even make sense to you? What?...

You don't care about animals dying, and they are going to die either way... which you aknowledge.

Reb, environmental benefits? Oh sorry killing animals to stop them from dying must be a benefit...

I am in complete awe that this concept is a difficult one to grasp.

If you look at that link I put up to Gettysburg National Military Park, (anyone?) you'll see that the park deemed 25 deer per mile is a good number. Any more, and the competition for food becomes serious enough to warrant malnutrition and starvation for ALL deer.

Or, if you prefer:

Pretend you and a friend order a pizza. Its got 8 slices. That pizza can very effectively feed two people. Now pretend that the pizza place closed and there will be no more pizza. You've got that one, and that's it. If its just you and your friend, you'll be fine.
Now pretend that 7 other friends show up wanting pizza. You've got 8 slices. Someone will go without, and EVERYONE will be unsatisfied.

Same premise, more severe since animals lack the capacity to seek food elsewhere, like sending one of those 7 moochers to Wendy's late night menu to pick up more food.

There's so much more to it than that too, at least in terms of environmental benefits.
Excessive grazing by herbivorous animals (I get extra points for the big word right?) can lead to vegetation taking a severe beating. I've seen pine trees stripped of needles and the young branches bitten off by deer who couldn't get enough nutrition from the usual food sources. if eating sticks isn't an indication of excessive competition for food, I don't know what is.




Edited by Reb Cpl - 01 October 2009 at 6:08pm

jmac3 wrote: True first post saying I agree may have thrown it off. I also didn't disregard the positive effects of hunting. I merely said there are other ways to get the same effects.

I never was under the impression that you wanted hunting banned- but I disagreed with your definition of 'useful'

Other ways to get the same outcomes, but not nearly as effective or cost effective (ew redundancy) as hunting is.

__sneaky__ wrote: erm reb, I didnt post that mssg that u quoted bud.

Someone did, I was addressing that. Not necessarily you.

**edit: i found it. sorry


Edited by Reb Cpl - 01 October 2009 at 6:07pm

To add to the above, delusions of persecution are a trademark of the outer extremes of the political limits as well.

I don't have a delusion of persecution.

Just seems lately it is gang up on jmac even when I am not arguing anything.

See: National ID Thread. My first post and then OS's response to me.

See: oldpb's sig.

jmac do you even remember how much ppl hated me when I started on this forum?

FE doesn't straight up call people retards, but he does say things like "<link> read this, if you can read."

Mack wrote: When you compare that to the way people treat FE (who doesn't even call folks "retards" or make comments like "kthxdie,") it doesn't even really register on the persecution scale.

QF Freakin T

Man, jmac is freaking eloquent with his posts AND he is well-spoken, respectful, respectable, and an all around good guy to have a conversation with. < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">

Edited by Gatyr - 01 October 2009 at 6:49pm