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FreeEnterprise: YOUR guys went into two wars, without asking the American people to sacrifice anything.
 
 
Actually "my" guys went into iraq, to save the people from a dictator that was ruining their country and torturing the people, while being a haven for terrorists.
Wrong.  Bush started hostilities against Iraq because he believed that there were still WMDs in the country.  He didn't go in to liberate Iraq.  There were no terrorists in Iraq before our invasion.  Funny how many are there now since the invasion.  Coincidence?  I think not.
 
 
I could argue this as before we went into Iraq, the Congress voted, which is both democrats and republicans... Those same congressmen and women also believed there were WMD's there, as represented by their votes. But, you don't want logic, you just want a cause.
 
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Obama promised to get us out of Iraq... And yet, we are still there,
Do you have any idea how long it will take us to get out of there?  That country is far from stable thanks to Bush and it will be years before it will be able to stand on it's own without our presence. 
 
So you are OK with us being there in a war zone? I thought war was bad? Obama promised to get us out of Iraq in the first year if elected... He said it would be the first thing he would do as President?
 
 
Where is your outrage?
 
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and now he has moved us into afghanistan as well.
Newsflash:  We were in Afghanistan before we went into Iraq.  
 
Yes, but he is the one who put in MAJOR troops, and lowered expectations... Are you supportive of this war because Obama is pushing it? Are there WMD's there?
 
 
[QUOTE=FreeEnterprise]One thing you have to realize, taxes will always go up, liberals are NEVER satisfied with what they have spent and always need more and more and more and more. (at least not in my lifetime, or any history I have read). So this spending will never allow them to "get out of the hole". For example if right now we pay 50% in tax (all taxes, property, gas tax, food tax, income tax ect.) When they raise it to pay the debt they would have to raise it to near 80% to pay for what has been spent by this administration... And we haven't "fixed" healthcare, or passed the energy tax bill...
One thing you need to realize.  Both the Left and the Right spend spend spend.  The only difference is, the Dems at least tax before they spend.  The GOP cuts taxes but spends anyway.  How does that make sense?  Thats like quitting your job and living off your credit card.  You keep spending, but you never make a payment because you have no revenue.
 
Really? You better look at your facts again. Check out this guy named Carter and the tax rates during his Presidency, then look at this guy named Reagan, and what he did with taxes. Then consider just how much Obama has spent in 6 months... It is staggering, especially while he promises not to raise taxes on those making less than $270,000, wait $250,000, no $220,000 I mean $170,000 a year. You know the rich. The people that smoke in the country... That smoking tax wasn't for the poor...
 
Currently, the republican party has lost its message of fiscal responsibility. And they have paid dearly for that loss. Look at who is in power for proof of that. Sadly you don't even realize that Obama made himself out to be like Reagan with his speeches, but he has been anything but... He promised just the other day to focus on helping main street, all the small businesses and consumers that have been devestated by this depression. But, so far it is just words. Which I guess a lot of people like yourself blindly follow expecting nothing...
 
Here he is in his words 10 months ago... Main street is still waiting...
 
 
They tremble at my name...
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In other news, my dad is going back to work after being laid off all summer. Hopefully things will keep picking up.
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FE, when are you going to realize that taxing cigarettes has NOTHING to do with what was campaigned about not raising taxes?
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

FE, when are you going to realize that taxing cigarettes has NOTHING to do with what was campaigned about not raising taxes?
 
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Clearly what he meant is that he is going to ban tobacco use for anyone making less than 250k per year.  He is going to do this by forcing you to turn your neighbors in if you see them violate this ban.  He will then send out his secret police to take them in the night, detain them FEMA (Federal Education Mending Authority) camps to be "reeducated"before releasing them back into society.
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Where do cigarettes fall in income, payroll, or capital gains?

Maybe if they replay that one sentence of his speech again their stupidity will make sense.

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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Parker Peter Parker wrote:

Wow.  This thread is amazing.


In before the sort of intellectual beat-down and fact-slapping that keeps me coming to T&O.

Also, Free is clearly winning this entire thread... Someone quick find something that will stick... We look like idiots for voting for Obama and talking about how great he is, maybe we can crash youtube so he doesn't keep posting the supreme leader in his own words, and the proving Obama's many lies... Ouch it hurts...
 
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Where do cigarettes fall in income, payroll, or capital gains?

Maybe if they replay that one sentence of his speech again their stupidity will make sense.

 
 
Its like shooting fish in a barrel...
 
I guess "NOT ANY OF YOUR TAXES" doesn't apply, huh...
 
 
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Because changing everyone's quotes around is really helping your argument.
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FE, he didn't raise my taxes by taxing cigarettes more. Did he raise yours?

He raised taxes on cigarettes, the cigarette companies raised the prices of their packs.


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He was clearly talking about income based taxes.  If you think anything els, you are just proving what we all already know.
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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

He was clearly talking about income based taxes.  If you think anything els, you are just proving what we all already know.
 
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If health care passes, you will pay more in taxes...
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Cap and Trade is not a tax.

EDIT:

Originally posted by FE FE wrote:

if health care passes, you will pay more in taxes...


OMG YOU BLEW MY MIND WITH INFORMATION EVERYBODY KNOWS!


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As to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan:
I was rather hoping when Obama was elected that he wouldn't pull entirely out of Iraq upon being elected. All the money we spent there would have been wasted.
Thankfully, he took a more moderate approach and resigned to remove COMBAT troops from Iraq, and leave a smaller contingent of forces to help the Iraqi military train and assist them in certain missions.

As to Afghanistan... That's simply common sense. Dubya never should have pulled all those troops to go to Iraq in the first place. Focus our efforts on the Afghan/Pakistan border, and hopefully catch Osama. If not, disrupt anything Al Queda tries to pull off.

I am no liberal, much less am I one of the "Leave Iraq Now" crowd. The first Gulf War never ended per UN resolutions it was just a cease-fire.... One that was violated when Saddam didn't fully comply with orders regarding paper-trails on the WMDs they had at some point in time. The war was justified, but highly ill-advised.
Afghanistan, however... I can't see how anyone could believe our military shouldn't be there. There should be MORE troops there if anything.
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You know... Obama could be accurate when he says he won't raise taxes, no matter how much he spends...
 
 
It would be almost as believable as landing in a tiny pool of water after jumping off your mountain slip and slide...
 
 
 
 
it could happen... its ON VIDEO?...
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:




If health care passes, you will pay more in taxes...


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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

FreeEnterprise: YOUR guys went into two wars, without asking the American people to sacrifice anything.
 
 
Actually "my" guys went into iraq, to save the people from a dictator that was ruining their country and torturing the people, while being a haven for terrorists.
Wrong.  Bush started hostilities against Iraq because he believed that there were still WMDs in the country.  He didn't go in to liberate Iraq.  There were no terrorists in Iraq before our invasion.  Funny how many are there now since the invasion.  Coincidence?  I think not.
 
 
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

I could argue this as before we went into Iraq, the Congress voted, which is both democrats and republicans... Those same congressmen and women also believed there were WMD's there, as represented by their votes. But, you don't want logic, you just want a cause.
 

I'm sure you could argue it.  The fact is, Bush gave FALSE information to Congress to urge them that immediate action was needed to go into Iraq.  Saddam was not a fan of Muslim fundamental extremists in his country.  They would be a threat to his dictatorship.  He didn't want what happened in Iran in 1979 happen to him.  That is why there were no Al-Quaida terrorists in Iraq before the invasion.

 
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Obama promised to get us out of Iraq... And yet, we are still there,
Do you have any idea how long it will take us to get out of there?  That country is far from stable thanks to Bush and it will be years before it will be able to stand on it's own without our presence. 
 
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

So you are OK with us being there in a war zone? I thought war was bad? Obama promised to get us out of Iraq in the first year if elected... He said it would be the first thing he would do as President?
 

Of course I'm not OK with it.  Bush was responsible for them being there in the first place.  As far as Obama's promise to get our troops out, he said back in December of 2007 that it would take 2-3 years to get them all out.   http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/15/519023.aspx

 
 
Where is your outrage?
 
 
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

and now he has moved us into afghanistan as well.
Newsflash:  We were in Afghanistan before we went into Iraq.  
 
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Yes, but he is the one who put in MAJOR troops, and lowered expectations... Are you supportive of this war because Obama is pushing it? Are there WMD's there?
 

If that is the case, then it is about time. Of course the expectations are lowered. The Taliban/Al-Qaida forces are operating out of Pakistan which our forces can't cross into without permission. The terrorists know this and are taking advantage of it. Had Bush not invaded Iraq and put all those resources into Afghanistan, I'm sure the outcome would be different. Of course I don't support it because Obama is pushing it. I have no love for Obama. I didn't vote for him and was appalled when he was elected. I support this action because that is where our true enemies are. Y'know, the ones responsible for the 9/11 attack. Your WMD comment is unnecessary sarcasm. Perhaps the incompetence of Bush's mishandling Iraq just stings a little too much for you?

 
 
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

One thing you have to realize, taxes will always go up, liberals are NEVER satisfied with what they have spent and always need more and more and more and more. (at least not in my lifetime, or any history I have read). So this spending will never allow them to "get out of the hole". For example if right now we pay 50% in tax (all taxes, property, gas tax, food tax, income tax ect.) When they raise it to pay the debt they would have to raise it to near 80% to pay for what has been spent by this administration... And we haven't "fixed" healthcare, or passed the energy tax bill...
One thing you need to realize.  Both the Left and the Right spend spend spend.  The only difference is, the Dems at least tax before they spend.  The GOP cuts taxes but spends anyway.  How does that make sense?  Thats like quitting your job and living off your credit card.  You keep spending, but you never make a payment because you have no revenue.
 
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Really? You better look at your facts again. Check out this guy named Carter and the tax rates during his Presidency, then look at this guy named Reagan, and what he did with taxes.
 
[QUOTE=FreeEnterprise]Then consider just how much Obama has spent in 6 months... It is staggering, especially while he promises not to raise taxes on those making less than $270,000, wait $250,000, no $220,000 I mean $170,000 a year. You know the rich. The people that smoke in the country... That smoking tax wasn't for the poor...
 

I am no fan of the stimulus bills. They are full of pork. I am also displeased about Obama breaking his word on taxing the Middle Class. There aren't enough rich to tax, the Lower Class has no money to tax. This leaves the Middle Class to fund Obama's spending spree.  Your comment on smoking leads me to believe you either smoke like a chimney or have stock in big tobacco.  As far as I'm concerned, they can tax the tobacco industry into the stoneage.

 
Currently, the republican party has lost its message of fiscal responsibility. And they have paid dearly for that loss. Look at who is in power for proof of that. Sadly you don't even realize that Obama made himself out to be like Reagan with his speeches, but he has been anything but... He promised just the other day to focus on helping main street, all the small businesses and consumers that have been devestated by this depression. But, so far it is just words. Which I guess a lot of people like yourself blindly follow expecting nothing...
 
Here he is in his words 10 months ago... Main street is still waiting...
 
 


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