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Poll Question: What would you do to control this problem?
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    Posted: 08 April 2009 at 9:29am
Since they grabbed another merchantmen with a US crew, how does the world merchant navies handle this problem. So far the US Navy and NATO Navies are in area, but not allowed to aggresively approach suspected pirate "command" ships, or the smaller fastboats till they actually attack a merchantmen. Usually response is too late, and the navies can not fire on nor attack and board the merchantman once it has been taken over.
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I didn't think it was legal to arm merchantmen, although a few marines and a minigun should be able to repel boarders. I don't think we have enough ships in the area to do a convoy, and blowing them up on sight will lead to accidents and collateral damage, like that trawler the Indian Navy sunk. 
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If I'm correct about the laws, Piracy comes under a sort of universal jurisdiction, in that any naval vessel can stop and board suspected pirate vessels.

I'd be all for committing more naval vessels there, including ones with armed helicopters. Pirate vessels should simply be fair game.

Any vessels that are captured by Pirates should be watched, and once the pirates are paid off and try to make their escape, put a Harpoon (the missile) into them, or chase them down with a helo.

Eventually, hostages are going to be lost, but sometimes that happens. Much firmer measures need to be taken to end this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FreeEnterprise Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2009 at 10:19am
Bet obama does nothing...
 
Then looks to the UN to fix his problem.
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Why is it up to the US to fix this?
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Bet obama does nothing...
 
Then looks to the UN to fix his problem.


Christ, do you ever stop?
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Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Why is it up to the US to fix this?
Who said it was up to the US?
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Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Why is it up to the US to fix this?
Who said it was up to the US?


FE when he said "Bet Obama does nothing"
Que pasa?


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They should still hand out Letters of Marque.
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Last I knew, Obama was the President.  Not the country.
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Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Last I knew, Obama was the President.† Not the country.

NOT MAH PRESIDENT!!!!!eleven!!!!!!1!
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Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Last I knew, Obama was the President.  Not the country.



The president of the US....If he did anything that would be the US doing something.

If he does nothing then that is the US doing nothing.

Que pasa?


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Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Last I knew, Obama was the President.  Not the country.



He's representative of the people as a whole, and it just so happens that the people as a whole (of the U.S) make up the body of the country.

The body of the country = the country


Unless you are literally using country to describe land.
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Last I knew, Obama was the President.  Not the country.



The president of the US....If he did anything that would be the US doing something.

If he does nothing then that is the US doing nothing.

Obama went to Europe.  The US didn't go to Europe.  Obama won the Presidential election.  The US didn't win the Presidential election.  Obama has sex with his wife.  The US didn't have sex with his wife.
 
Could be me, but that logic seems a wee bit flawed.


Edited by StormyKnight - 08 April 2009 at 10:50am
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Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Last I knew, Obama was the President.  Not the country.



The president of the US....If he did anything that would be the US doing something.

If he does nothing then that is the US doing nothing.

Obama went to Europe.  The US didn't go to Europe.  Obama won the Presidential election.  The US didn't win the Presidential election.  Obama has sex with his wife.  The country didn't have sex with his wife.
 
Could be me, but that logic seems a wee bit flawed.



Could be you trolling, but that logic is nonsense.

Obama leads the country. If Obama thinks that the US should stop Somali pirates, is he going to do it himself? No.
Que pasa?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Reb Cpl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2009 at 11:06am
Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Last I knew, Obama was the President.  Not the country.



The president of the US....If he did anything that would be the US doing something.

If he does nothing then that is the US doing nothing.

Obama went to Europe.  The US didn't go to Europe.  Obama won the Presidential election.  The US didn't win the Presidential election.  Obama has sex with his wife.  The US didn't have sex with his wife.
 
Could be me, but that logic seems a wee bit flawed.


Take a step back and a few deep breaths, then look really, really hard at your OWN logic.

Then apologize.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote StormyKnight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2009 at 11:19am
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:



Could be you trolling, but that logic is nonsense.
Pot calling kettle black.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote StormyKnight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2009 at 11:26am
Everyone's sarcasm meter must be broken today.
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Actually, that was just really bad sarcasm. And the fact that you pushed it makes me think you were serious and are just trying to cop out after realizing how silly you sounded.

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Quote Obama has sex with his wife.  The US didn't have sex with his wife.
C'mon, how could anyone take that seriously?


Edited by StormyKnight - 08 April 2009 at 11:44am
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