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    Posted: 01 March 2009 at 1:17am
Jesus H, what do you guys make of this:

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattle911/archives/163025.asp

That is just........brutal.....
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I'd hit it.
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Jesus Christ. What a tough man he must be to throw around a 15 year old girl like that....
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She walked into a room that was very obviously not the kitchen or laundry room. Why not?
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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

She walked into a room that was very obviously not the kitchen or laundry room. Why not?

He hit her in the face man, that makes it way too obvious.
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he was completely justified.  
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She's 15 . . . what other reason do you need?
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/me waits for Linus.
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With all the resistance she presented I'm surprised he didn't pull a taser out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Enmity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2009 at 8:23am
I bet linus will bring out the fact that she kicked her shoes out the door, I'm sure he will explain that she kicked them towards the deputy deliberately and that made it justified to slam a 15 year olds head against the wall and throw her to the ground by her hair.
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Originally posted by Hysteria Hysteria wrote:

/me waits for Linus.
Que pasa?


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even if he thought he was being threatened or assaulted by what looked to me her snarky attempt to kick her shoes off, he did not use reasonable force given her age, and crime which was apparently no permission to borrow mommys car.  She was probably yapping and being a typical you-can't-touch-me handcuffed 15 year old.  But I'm sure there's plenty of videos that would bore us to death of similar situations where the officers are able to remain calm and go about what they needed to do without pummeling, ramming her face into a concrete wall, then onto the concrete floor.  Once she's down, I don't see her struggle at all and he gives her a couple of big boy shots to the face, again, not reasonable.  Guy needs at the very least anger managament, and possibly a new career.
PS after reading the article on the sherrif involved that was charged for this incident, another detective who was following up on the auto-theft case was watching the video, saw the behaviour and contacted their supervisors to report what they must have thought was excess force.


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ummmm


"We had argued strenuously that the videotape released to the media this morning not be released because it does not tell the whole story of the incident," attorney Anne Bremner said in a statement.

"As we argued to the judge, it will inflame public opinion and will severely impact the deputy's right to a fair trial."





wut?





EDIT: Oh wait more...





In his own report from the incident, Schene wrote that the shoe hit him in the right shin, "causing injury and pain." He wrote that he "placed" her into handcuffs and that she needed medical attention for a "panic attack."

He said a "blood filled pocket" formed on his shin, requiring treatment at Auburn General Hospital, according to his report.

That article


Edited by jmac3 - 01 March 2009 at 10:39am
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Linus, do you actually believe what you type?

I am just curious.

EDIT: how the hell did my post get above yours?

Oh and apparently smashing someones head into a wall is justified after kicking her and throwing in a punch....

Not to mention she is 15 and her crime is using her parent's car without permission...


Edited by jmac3 - 01 March 2009 at 10:42am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Linus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2009 at 10:40am
Why? I don't agree with his actions.

Was he justified in subduing her because she kicked the shoe at him? Yes. Did he use an exorbitant amount of force to do that? Yup.


The initial push into the wall was ok, the throwing on the the ground was pushing it, but using the hair to do so and once he started punching her, that went beyond the line.


You guys have to give me SOME credit, I don't think ALL police action is justified... I just have to balance out your "lynch all cops" attitude.

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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Linus, do you actually believe what you type?I am just curious.



And do you actually have gray matter between your ears? I said he used too much force.

Exorbitant =
not coming within the scope of the law
exceeding the customary or appropriate limits in intensity, quality, amount, or size

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Linus, do you actually believe what you type?I am just curious.



And do you actually have gray matter between your ears? I said he used too much force.

Exorbitant =
not coming within the scope of the law
exceeding the customary or appropriate limits in intensity, quality, amount, or size




"The initial push into the wall was ok"


Your quote....did you watch the video?
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Yup, and watched it on the news well before this thread too.


Do I have to start the whole "using the force appropriate to subdue, and nothing more" argument again? Because obviously you're too slow to catch on to it for the past 3 years.


Would I have preferred another method of him doing it? Hell yes. If you think any different then you are just looking for an argument from me.

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Force appropriate to subdue a 15 year old who did nothing more than flick a shoe?

I think appropriate force would have been to shut the door on her....


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Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

With all the resistance she presented I'm surprised he didn't pull a taser out.

INB4 Don't tase me bro.

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