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I'm sort of in Linus's camp here with the whole 'stealing the car' thing.

If I walk outside and my car is missing and someone tells me "Choop took it" and my response is nothing more than "Oh. Damn, I wish he'd have told me first" then how is that criminal act?

Lets say that I go to the police and tell them that you took my car without my permission, but I don't care. What will the reaction of the police be?

My guess though is that the law stating that someone living in a household can take the car without that being deemed a crime is to prevent pissed off parents from claiming that their car had been stolen by an errant child.


Shooting someone in the knee is a different matter. Why? Because its much more complicated than just the wound. I might even decide not to press charges against you (the shooter) but now you've got other, civil matters to contend with. Firing a gun in a public place perhaps, the legality of your possession if the gun,  and so on.





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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

I'm sort of in Linus's camp here with the whole 'stealing the car' thing. If I walk outside and my car is missing and someone tells me "Choop took it" and my response is nothing more than "Oh. Damn, I wish he'd have told me first" then how is that criminal act?Lets say that I go to the police and tell them that you took my car without my permission, but I don't care. What will the reaction of the police be? My guess though is that the law stating that someone living in a household can take the car without that being deemed a crime is to prevent pissed off parents from claiming that their car had been stolen by an errant child. Shooting someone in the knee is a different matter. Why? Because its much more complicated than just the wound. I might even decide not to press charges against you (the shooter) but now you've got other, civil matters to contend with. Firing a gun in a public place perhaps, the legality of your possession if the gun, and so on.


What about stabbing him in the back of the knee with a fork?
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

I'm sort of in Linus's camp here with the whole 'stealing the car' thing. If I walk outside and my car is missing and someone tells me "Choop took it" and my response is nothing more than "Oh. Damn, I wish he'd have told me first" then how is that criminal act?Lets say that I go to the police and tell them that you took my car without my permission, but I don't care. What will the reaction of the police be? My guess though is that the law stating that someone living in a household can take the car without that being deemed a crime is to prevent pissed off parents from claiming that their car had been stolen by an errant child. Shooting someone in the knee is a different matter. Why? Because its much more complicated than just the wound. I might even decide not to press charges against you (the shooter) but now you've got other, civil matters to contend with. Firing a gun in a public place perhaps, the legality of your possession if the gun, and so on.


What about stabbing him in the back of the knee with a fork?


I got intentionally jabbed in the neck with a fork once. I didn't press charges, the matter went away.




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The question isn't if you'll be charged, it's if it's legal.
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You're allowed to consent to your own injury. If you're fine with it happening, it's not illegal.

That is why boxers can't get each other arrested for battery.

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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

If I walk outside and my car is missing and someone tells me "Choop took it" and my response is nothing more than "Oh. Damn, I wish he'd have told me first" then how is that criminal act?


If that happened to me, Choop's going down.  Plus I'm going to tell the cops that he's both high and heavily armed.  Big smile

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

You're allowed to consent to your own injury. If you're fine with it happening, it's not illegal.

That is why boxers can't get each other arrested for battery.


They run on batteries?!  I thought they ran on 'roids.


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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

You're allowed to consent to your own injury. If you're fine with it happening, it's not illegal.

That is why boxers can't get each other arrested for battery.


What if I assault someone with amnesia?
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

You're allowed to consent to your own injury. If you're fine with it happening, it's not illegal.

That is why boxers can't get each other arrested for battery.


What if I assault someone with amnesia?


You answered you're own question.

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Two things come to mind. First the girl was 15. Pretty sure in every state here in the U.S. that her taking the car whether with permission or without would have been an illegal act. 2. It would be interesting to know if the cops pulled her over and realized she was driving without the consent of her parents, whether her parents reported the car stolen not knowing she took it, or if they knew she took it and turned her sorry butt in.  Would be kind of  funny if he parents narc'd her out.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

You're allowed to consent to your own injury. If you're fine with it happening, it's not illegal.

That is why boxers can't get each other arrested for battery.


What if I assault someone with amnesia?


You answered you're own question.


Yeah but they didn't press charges, it's legal.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

You're allowed to consent to your own injury. If you're fine with it happening, it's not illegal.

That is why boxers can't get each other arrested for battery.


What if I assault someone with amnesia?


You answered you're own question.


Yeah but they didn't press charges, it's legal.



If they allow it, it's not assault.

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They just forgot, and thus didn't press charges.
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This is one time Choop, where It really looks like you're going out of your way to argue, just because Linus is on the other side.




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Pretty much, I'm just seeing if I can find a scenario that works. Not much else to do in an open lab.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Pretty much, I'm just seeing if I can find a scenario that works. Not much else to do in an open lab.


Fair enough. I've done it too on occasion.


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This copper has no excuse for his actions, Find one and I will dispute it fully...
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Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

This copper has no excuse for his actions, Find one and I will dispute it fully...
 
She was acting like a fifteen year old.
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Stop the arguing, you guys really need to learn the joys of beating up 15 year old girls. Gets all your stresses out at once, plus it makes them better wives in the future, because they know whats going to happen if they over cook the roast, miss a spot vacuuming and such.

Its all good
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Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

This copper has no excuse for his actions, Find one and I will dispute it fully...
 
She was acting like a fifteen year old.

I don't know if the "beat every 15 year old" act will hold up to be honest. 
He should know better.
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Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

This copper has no excuse for his actions, Find one and I will dispute it fully...
 
She was acting like a fifteen year old.

I don't know if the "beat every 15 year old" act will hold up to be honest. 
He should know better.
 
I am guessing you don't deal with teenage girls very often? Trust me, she had it coming.
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