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a-sock, I think you and I are basically on the same page.  My setup certainly isn't for everyone but it works great for my style of play. 

When I advise I address those areas that are core to the question being asked. Since I can achieve the same accuracy with a 14" barrel that I can with my 20" barrel I believe barrel length now comes down to personal preference and style of play and wouldn't be something I would talk to the poster about other than to say anything over 14" is going to be for looks only.  If you see my first post in this thread that's exactly what I told him. But if he hears all the arguments as to why 20" barrels are only a cosmetic selection and he still chooses it I see no reason to belittle him for it is all I'm getting at. 



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Well it seams like this thread is starting to wrap up. Amen to Robotech's comment on enjoying the sport. Know what? I enjoy scaring people walking into the match. I've got a guy who plays with me who usually carries a gear bag: the team stashes most our air and balls with him, I figure he has got room to carry some extra barrels with him.

Every game is different, you never know what the other guys will do- It'll probobly be helpfull to have the flexibility of 9-20" barrels of various loudness. Not to mention, the hiding behind brush idea could have been useful in some matches I've been in.

It's interesting to see how my team has grown over the two years we've been doing this. We all started on your standard walley world <70 gun, and have since all moved into our little nitches. We have two guys on MR1's, one who is in love with his Victor, and one who is happy with his pump and his pistol. Not to mention one who is soon to own an A-5.

By the way- I didn't know that about the Barret: another interesting thing.

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Originally posted by Robotech Robotech wrote:

Agreed here...nothing longer than 14" unless you like the "look" of it.  Anything over 14" provides no benefit to performance. 

While my guides page has a much more in-depth discussion on the subject (3 parts no less) the basics are get a regulated air source, a decent barrel, shoot good paint, and get the size of the paint to match the bore of your barrel as close as possible.  That's what makes for a consistant and thus "more accurate" marker.

 
You know in the 22 years of playing this game I would agree with you.  Nothing over 14 inches, with the ideal length between 8 and 12.
 
Then at last years D-Day I got the new Straightline Hammerhead.  Overall length with the fins on is 16 inches.
 
I was a little concerned about it because it would mean drag on the ball and turning up the velocity and blah blah blah....
 
The guy I talked to said it was the best barrel they've ever made.  Help with efficiency and all I really heard was blah blah blah ....  The back of my head I was saying whatever dude, seeing is believing.
 
So I put the barrel on my X-7 that was already Chronoed at 280.  Had to rechrono because they required it before each mini scenario.  I was laughing with some of the guys about the length of the barrel and how they believed I was trying to make up for something else.
 
The marker chronoed at 345.
 
Now I have a Palmer Stabilizer on every marker I have.  So I was actually REALLY SHOCKED to see this.  I turned the thing down till I got it to 285.  Accuracy was on par with my J&J Edge kit.  Sound down range according to my teammates was that they just heard the ball wiz by.
 
I thought this was a fluck of some sort.  Maybe there was something going on with the weather and all that.
 
Two months later I decide to put the barrel on my ION.  I had that thing dialed in at 280 as well.  I go to chrono and I'm at 365.  I curse myself for forgetting that this would/might happen and the ref is like "Just shoot a few rounds off, I see this all the time."  I tell him the story, and he calls BS on me, so I go back to my car, get my J&J kit with and walk back.  I swap out the barrel with the 12 inch and I hit 280 for 10 balls straight ... give or take a few FPS.
 
I put the Straightline back on and it jumped back up to 365.
 
He said he never saw a 16" barrel do that before.  I agreed.
 
Since that day I'm made the barrel my standard for my B-5.  with a 16" barrel on my Bullpup there really isn't a huge poker stick out the front anymore.
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I may have to try one of these hammerhead barrels on my A5.  Seems to me a lot of people really like them and they perform well.  Would be interested in checking one out.
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I'd like to try one of those straightlines, but for $150... I'll wait.
 
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Originally posted by thejudge thejudge wrote:

one of the best guns in my arsenal for accuracy is my autococker trilogy.  Its not the best cocker on the block but its quiet, reliable, and accurate.  go get that with HPA and a J&J kit. If you are looking for something else then let us know.  I guess I am not really sure what you are asking anymore.  Do you just want to tell you exactly what tobuy even if you dont really like it?
 
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Originally posted by Robotech Robotech wrote:

I may have to try one of these hammerhead barrels on my A5.  Seems to me a lot of people really like them and they perform well.  Would be interested in checking one out.
 
I'd wait a few months.  I've talked to them and they said they have a few things in the pipe for release soon.
 
One is a tip that they already have on their website.
 
the other is a newer barrel.  If it can do what the straightline does and be a smaller length then that might be perfect for most people.
 
Unless you want to have the Straightline and call your marker the "Peter North" .... LOL
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I already have a long barrel on my WS66 so staying away from a long barrel on my A5 would be best.  Isn't the Sharktooth barrel that Hammerhead sells similar to the straightline just shorter?
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yes but i dont think the rifling is  quite the same.  it is only  8.5" though.  I   am  hopeing they release a 12" soon just because 14 and 16  are a little long for my  liking.
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If you want to snipe get yourself a Tib9 and the upgrade system for the new first strike sniper round and you will have yourself probably the first true sniper marker in paintball. Hopefully you have alot of $$$ otherwise forget about it! HEHEHE.
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