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ParielIsBack
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Topic: KGB/StasiPosted: 05 November 2008 at 8:48am |
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Sly insertion of the 'H' over there.
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 8:29am |
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hahahaha Hysteria.
So when and where do I sign up to join this police force? I suppose training must begin soon. |
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 2:42am |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 12:48pm |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 12:12pm |
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It's been a long time since this forum saw a 'your mom' joke, but in my current fatigue-delirious state it strikes me as appropriate here. |
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"Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 12:02pm |
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Exodus 32:14 (New American Standard Bible) New American Standard Bible (NASB) 14(A)So the LORD changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people. in context based on biblical precident, i would have to say yes, he can change his mind. biblical precident also shows a great deal having to do with answered prayer, for instance. Genesis 25:21 (New American Standard Bible) New American Standard Bible (NASB) 21Isaac prayed to the LORD on behalf of his wife, because she was barren; and (A)the LORD answered him and Rebekah his wife (B)conceived. there are also numerous examples in the bible telling us to pray. Matthew 7:7 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) 7"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. as far as why God would want it this way, its tough to say, perhaps as a logical extension of free will. Edited by adrenalinejunky - 04 November 2008 at 12:03pm |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:51am |
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SARCASM DETECTOR IS BROKEN CAPTAIN
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i think i have seen that before, and like you said, i wasnt overly impressed.. |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:48am |
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What theology are you studying/practicing that allows you to question God and the reason he does things? Isn't Christianity specifically based on faith that God exists and knows what he is doing? How many times have you heard to "give God control", "put your fate in God's hands"? Do you really think that self serving prayer will result in Him changing His mind? I look forward to a good explanation on this, as I have never gotten it. |
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"When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter.
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:47am |
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Right, what about what existed BEFORE the big bang?
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:39am |
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Well, that would be convenient. But I don't think it completely explains events from "the beginning of time" either theologically or scientifically. I think that's kinda the point... |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:37am |
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Can't we just say God caused the Big Bang and get it over with?
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:36am |
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Frankly, that's my view too. I find it a little difficult to believe that we know everything there is about the creation of the universe already, and I really don't have any problems seeing the Biblical account of creation meeting up with the scientific account of evolution.
Well sure...if you look at it from the normal viewpoint of the world. But that argument isn't actually based in theology. |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:21am |
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I always had an issue with this. If God is all knowing, allseeing, omnipotent and has complete control and a master plan....what good is praying going to do anyways? Going by common Christian beleifs, God has a plan and it is not ours to question. Isn't praying for Him to change His mind questioning Him? Unless you are praying for understanding, than you are wasting your time. |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:08am |
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Bruce-
Bite your tongue. I'm working constant twelve hour days at the main entry checkpoint to the airfield these days and for the next month. My
job is slowly, steadily sucking my soul. Literally the highlight of my time working gate so far was when I 'got' to have a break in the routine by working on a security contractor who got shot in the neck and was dropped off for us to deal with. In the spectrum of crappiness, I think it goes my job > getting teeth pulled > debating evolution on the internet. Compared to dealing with some of the locals, the crowd here in T&O is like a fount of academic maturity. I need a nice simply online argument to keep my sanity right now.. |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:08am |
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So . . . what are the ramifications of this statement as applied to Stealth? On a serious note; I have tried so hard to ignore FE's posts but now I find I can no longer do so. With that in mind, I am forced to respond to some of the more annoying parts of his last post.
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:06am |
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Bruce, thanks to my work filter I can't see the picture you posted.
But in terms of widespread belief lending credence to a theory, I'm going to say 'not necessarily.' But also point out that, like religion, it is difficult to prove that such things AREN'T legitimate. You say that not being able to prove they DON'T exist is ample enough for you, but my not being able to prove they DO, is enough for you to shake your head and deem my theories out in left field. (this being said, I am not exactly a believer in all superstitious and off the wall mumb-jumbo just because it's wide spread, I'm only trying to make a point) A new point of view- what if the widespread and long standing belief in a higher power, despite the overwhelming opposition, IS the proof that you're looking for? God, as a tangible being is about as believable (even to me) as the tooth fairy. Some might claim that mass religious belief is nothing more than widespread stupidity. What if they're so far off base they're not even in the same ball park? You lack the tangible evidence that God exists, therefore it is enough for you to say that "If I can't see him, he ain't there" Couldn't it be enough that the belief in a higher power that has lasted through industrial revolutions, scientific breakthroughs and mass ideological sparring can count as evidence? Perhaps I'm reaching, but it was a line of thought that entered my head as I was typing. |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:00am |
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I share your pain. In any event, there is a variety of learning of observed speciation. The problem is that critics of evolutionary theory often have a rather specific concept of what "speciation" means, which leads them to be disappointed by the evidence. Nevertheless, good article here. |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 10:54am |
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This is sort of the camp I'm sitting in. For me to deny scientific evidence of evolution, natural selection, etc. would be absolutely moronic. There's far too much evidence for it all to be coincidence. However, why should that stop me from believing that there is a higher power out there somewhere who kicked off the entire process? Evolution on this planet is one thing. The overall creation of the entire universe is a little more theoretical in nature. |
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 10:53am |
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haha... sadly enough its something i've done alot..... i take issue with flawed arguements - whether they try to support or attack my position. |
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