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Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

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obama for many reasons.
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Originally posted by Gator Taco Gator Taco wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

I'd actually be willing to bet more forumers are conservative. The vocal ones on T&O happen to be more liberal, giving the illusion of a false majority.

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Just remember to vote... the polls are paid for by the liberal media...

Obama will raise taxes, on top of all the money the government just spent.

"Senator government" will make all of us pay. Because when you tax business only a buffoon would think they actually pay... (I know as I own a few businesses) They just raise the price of all their products to cover the increased costs of business.

When tax rates get too high. Business leaves. Look at California and NY.

No matter what Obama pays you to vote for him. He's talking about another $1,000... Will not compare to what you will pay when you spend your money.

We should never vote to Increase taxes. Ever. If you believe we should, then send the government a check today, they will figure out a way to spend it for you.



Edited by FreeEnterprise - 17 October 2008 at 2:02pm
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Either way, this election will make even the british tabloids jealous.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Originally posted by Gator Taco Gator Taco wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

I'd
actually be willing to bet more forumers are conservative. The vocal ones
on T&O happen to be more liberal, giving the illusion of a false majority.
+1


+2


Just remember to vote... the polls are paid for by the liberal
media...


Obama will raise taxes, on top of all the money the government just
spent.


"Senator government" will make all of us pay. Because when you tax
business only a buffoon would think they actually pay... (I know as I own
a few businesses) They just raise the price of all their products to cover
the increased costs of business.


When tax rates get too high. Business leaves. Look at California and
NY.


No matter what Obama pays you to vote for him. He's talking about
another $1,000... Will not compare to what you will pay when you spend
your money.


We should never vote to Increase taxes. Ever. If you believe we should,
then send the government a check today, they will figure out a way to
spend it for you.




On most forums I would call troll.

Sadly, here I think it is just someone who listens to AM radio a bit too
much.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FreeEnterprise Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 October 2008 at 2:21pm
I'm just bitter and clinging to my guns and my Bible.
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Nope, that can't be serious.

I won't believe it.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

I'm just bitter and clinging to my guns and my
Bible.


Never mind.

I call troll.
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Conservative American points out facts.

 

Liberal American calls names...

 

Typical.

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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Conservative American points out facts.


 


Liberal American calls names...


 


Typical.






What facts did you point out?
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The funny thing is that almost flies here.

If you were oldsoldier, there would be no doubt that you were being sincere.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

 the polls are paid for by the liberal media...

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Quote We should never vote to Increase taxes. Ever.

That may one of the very silliest things I have seen on there, and that's saying something...

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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

The funny thing is that almost flies here.

If you were oldsoldier, there would be no doubt that you were being sincere.

"Almost"?

I'll happily argue with most trolls anyway...   :)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Reb Cpl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 October 2008 at 2:33pm
I want to say something, but I'm really learning that pouring gas on the fire isn't usually a good thing. I'll say what I want with a vote, and that's all.




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Originally posted by Bruce Banner Bruce Banner wrote:


I'll happily argue with most trolls anyway...   :)



Agreed. Usually I hope that someone sees the points being made against the
troll and learns something they didn't know before.
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"Rohaly and Lim reckon that in 2009, households in the $30,000-$40,000 income class would pay an average EMTR of 16.8 percent under the McCain plan and 19 percent under the Obama plan. Households in the $50,000-$75,000 income class would pay an average EMTR of 18.6 percent under the McCain plan and 19.9 percent under the Obama plan. Households in the $100,000-$200,000 income class would pay an average EMTR of 25.1 percent under the McCain plan and 26 percent under the Obama plan."

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http://www.american.com/archive/2008/october-10-08/dollars-a nd-sense

"Over time, says UCLA economist Lee Ohanian, the Obama plan ‘would reduce growth of wages and growth of GDP.’"

 

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Interesting study, but not on the point I requested.
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Originally posted by Bruce Banner Bruce Banner wrote:

Interesting study, but not on the point I requested.


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