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    Posted: 19 August 2008 at 11:26pm
any news or updates, or possibly when to expect them other than FALL 2008?
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Quote from another forum (which copied it from another forum [MCB got it from X7OG])

"Alrighty. This weekend, at the Wasaga Beach Paintball Outbreak game, I got a chance to corner a Tippmann rep and picked his brain for almost over a half hour on the sidearm. Now, he hummed and hawed about what he couldn't tell me, but I'm pretty good at asking the right questions. So, here's what I've learned.

The gun will supposedly be shaped similar to a Glock at the front end, but similar to the T8 at the back end with a smaller rear profile.

A bottom mount rail is supposed to be standard, but apparently there's division on the design team. Some seem to think it should be standard, others think it should be a purchase add-on. Figures.

The sights will apparently be a fixed rear notch, with a removable front blade. They haven't decided if it's going to be removeable, but it's a sidearm and it needs to be drawn quickly. I informed him that from personal experience a front blade sight will always grab (Murphy's Law) at the exact wrong time. Make it removeable. He's apparently arguing the same way.

The weapon will apparently fit an actual sliding safety, not a post or switch type safety (as seen on the T8).

The weapon will also be approx. 1/2 to 2/3 the weight of the T8, making it very light and easy to handle for our younger, smaller players.

The pistol grip will be a Colt .45 frame, just slightly larger due to ammo size differences.

The magazine will not be made of metal, but a high density polymer. Also, it's supposed to be less than half the price of the T8 mags.

The weapon itself will be built around a "revolutionary technology" that he wouldn't go into. So, unfortunately not much on that front. He did say that they're working on 40+ shots to the 12 gram, which I highly doubt. But, he did say it wouldn't be an MLA (magnetic linear accelerator) weapon. I was joking when I asked him that, and then spent 15 minutes explaining what that was. For those that don't know, it's the rail gun.

They're apparently going to try to keep the size down to a larger frame automatic, so it can actually fit in a regular holster rather than a smecially made holster. This will be good for us tactical players who don't like the rinkey dink holsters currently out for these weapons.

I'll update this as the conversation comes back to me. Alot happened after this, and some of it's escaped me at this time."
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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:


The weapon will also be approx. 1/2 to 2/3 the weight of the T8, making it very light and easy to handle for our younger, smaller players.


that really light, the t8 is only a pound and a half. hopefully its a tough as the other tippmann guns. and i hope its not plastic


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Man, I can barely sit still thinking about this, and this is the first time I have gotten even marginally excited about a pistol.
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^^^ its the first time i've been marginally excited about any new paintball marker. i wonder if it will be buildable like the t9 or just be a sidearm.
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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Also, it's supposed to be less than half the price of the T8 mags.

 

 

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I'd still rather have a Crosman
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Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

I'd still rather have a Crosman

you don't know really know anything about it though. this is all we can assume but can't confirm. maybe you don't know you'd rather have a crosman.

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I'm looking forward to it...
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Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

I'd still rather have a Crosman


good luck finding good paint for it. Or being able to use it in a FPO field.
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Some of what DeTrev said is wrong, but I wont say what.

Its coming, very soon.
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I'm looking forward to it...
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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Some of what DeTrev said is wrong, but I wont say what.

So if I were to offer Pie...

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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Some of what DeTrev said is wrong, but I wont say what.

Its coming, very soon.

be more specific on the time frame, before thanksgiving maybe?

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I have been trying for years to find a reasonably priced pistol with decent functionality.

Ideally I want to Duel weild pistols.

But the T8 are waay to over priced and the one I used had air problems and chops balls when you smack in the clip. For $40 a clip+ Shipping they can bite my A$$.

I don't understand why they even make pistols with the screw cap CO2 changers.  Don't they know we are weraing gloves and covered in dirt and sweat?

I just found out about Tippman making a pistol and I hope they don't screw it up and make it affordable to buy extra clips.  They have a chance to dominate the market here.

I don't care about size or weight.

1.)Make it quick and easy to reload Co2

2.)get more then 10 shots out of a cartrige

3.) Make it easy to realod from 10round tubes. If making money on the back end off clips is a concern then desgin affordable specific 10 round tubes.

You can make it modular for all the lights and lazers and stocks I don't care just make it a decent pistol that doesn't cost an arm and leg.

Paintball has been around long enough that we should have a decent affordable pistol on the Market. Hell give me the direct contact to the desgin team.

Honestly how hard is it to make a quick change for the CO2 and an easy removable back cap to load balls from a 10 round tube?

We can make guns that shoot a million balls a second, hoppers with carousels linked to the eyes of a marker, but they can't make a decent paintball pistol for under $230 and $40 a clip?

Anyone want to invest in my idea? We could make millions!!!
 

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Originally posted by Skeletor Skeletor wrote:

We can make guns that shoot a million balls a second, hoppers with carousels linked to the eyes of a marker, but they can't make a decent paintball pistol for under $230 and $40 a clip? 


True, yes. But those guns are also quite expensive if you hadn't noticed, as well as the hoppers.

Make your own? Sounds like you have enough ideas.
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Originally posted by Skeletor Skeletor wrote:

I have been trying for years to find a reasonably priced pistol with decent functionality.



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Originally posted by K Hop K Hop wrote:


True, yes. But those guns are also quite expensive if you hadn't noticed, as well as the hoppers.

Thats exactly my point those guns+hopper will run you the same price as trying to purchase Duel wielding T8 if you include clips, holster and guns.

I calculated if you want to duel weild 2 T8 + 3 extra clips for each gun+ the clip holders+ the holsters you will end up spending in the range of $800+ with tax and shipping.  Not to mention that pistol is picky with paint and you only get 8 shots/ co2 cartrage

There are decently priced pistols on the market for around $80-$100 but they are all not practical desgin for effcient ball and air reloading. All someone needs to do is give a little design loving to the current pistols and you have a decent affordable pistol.

Thats why I am hoping they guys at Tippman are going to do things right. If they can make a pistol for even $120 MSRP with the simple desgin additions of easy loading from a 10 round tube and quick and easy CO2 reload they can dominate the market. 



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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

Some of what DeTrev said is wrong, but I wont say what.

Its coming, very soon.


I just copied/pasted. :)
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The biggest problem with efficinacy is cocking the marker.  Pumpers only get about 40 rounds out of a CO2 while those of us that have used Zues/ACP style pistols get 17-22 and that's if we're lucky and not shooting very quickly. Semi-Auto + 12 Gram = very low shot count per 12 gram.
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