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    Posted: 10 July 2008 at 3:52pm
Something pretty scary hit close to home last night.

I wake up this morning to find out my neighbor's house was completely destroyed in a fire last night. My parents say there was emergency vehicles moving all through the morning after the fire was reported, around 3:00 AM. By then, most of the house was already destroyed and there wasn't much that could be done.

The family has been out on vacation in New York for a little while now. I know them fairly well, I babysat the two kids who are just younger than middle school age when I they needed someone to. I guess the father is going to be arriving alone in just about two hours to see the damage. The kids were too upset to come, and so they're staying with their mother in New York, where they have relatives.

Almost the whole thing is burnt down. Only the front steps and most of the grage is left standing, I guess the bulk of whatever is left of the house collapsed into the basement. Its kinda wierd just seeing nothing where a house was the day before. Its just kinda scary when it hits that close to home, right down the street. I walked through that entire house, and to now see nothing where it was is wierd.

Oh, and our neighborhood hasn't had working hydrants since the town put them in. The crews had to set up a system over half a mile long to get water from a pond thats at the entrance of the development. Supposedly the reporter from Channel 30 is finally going to investigate it.

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Anyways, I just ask that you think of them. I can't imagine being on vacation and hearing that every possesion of mine is now gone, in the blink of an eye. Everything they had been working for is lost, and they have no place to call home. I just can't imagine having to bear that. So, please pray for them, think of them, whatever. I understand that some of you probably won't care, which is fine. I just needed to go over all this in my head.
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Wow, that's terrible.

The city had better offer them a hell of a settlement due to the hydrant thing.

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earlier this week a house burnt down in my town.  probably less than 2000 people here, and we have a volunteer fire dept.  a grease fire in the kitchen started it.  fire dept was called and put out EXCEPT for the smoldering in the attic which lit up again at 3.am.  the department said it was not safe to stay in the home so the family was staying next door. wake up in the morning and house is burnt to the ground.  bad news for them NO HOME INSURANCE.  they're gonna try and sue the fire department. but i dont know how well that will go over as a volunteer fire department.

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That sounds horrible--I honestly can't imagine what I would do if my house burned down.

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Wow, that's terrible.


The city had better offer them a hell of a settlement due to the hydrant thing.



Yeah, the city is going to be paying out the butt for that screw up.

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In my house they actually put in fire sprinklers when they built it.  Every story I hear like this makes me thankful they did.
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I definitely for-see them getting a MASSIVE settlement out of the city not having working hydrants there.  It will be interesting to see how the courts handle it, ie; if they will compensated for the entire cost of a house(through damages and maybe pain/suffering?) or if the judge will rule that the hydrants wouldn't have stopped it from starting in the first place, in which case only a partial cost would be given.
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usaf, regardless of whether or not the hydrants would have stopped it, I would think that the time wasted with the crews setting up a half mile chain of hoses and pump would have been more useful putting out a fire had there been working hydrants.

Yomillo.  Sucks for your neighbors, be sure you help them in any way possible.

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Originally posted by ThatGuitarGuy ThatGuitarGuy wrote:

usaf, regardless of whether or not the hydrants would have stopped it, I would think that the time wasted with the crews setting up a half mile chain of hoses and pump would have been more useful putting out a fire had there been working hydrants.

           


That's the point I was making.  The fire would have happened either way, and I was wondering how that will affect the judges decision regarded a payout worth a new house versus a partial one.
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wow, that sucks.

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I have a working fire hydrant in my front yard.
Sucks. My brothers dad tried to burn down our house once with us in it, but we wouldn't come home because we knew something was up. Installing some new water pipes, we started a fire and it scared us, but we were able to put it out.

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That really sucks.
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Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

I have a working fire hydrant in my front yard.
Sucks. My brothers dad tried to burn down our house once with us in it, but we wouldn't come home because we knew something was up. Installing some new water pipes, we started a fire and it scared us, but we were able to put it out.


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Originally posted by Ilford Rule Ilford Rule wrote:

Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

I have a working fire hydrant in my front yard.
Sucks. My brothers dad tried to burn down our house once with us in it, but we wouldn't come home because we knew something was up. Installing some new water pipes, we started a fire and it scared us, but we were able to put it out.




Its really easy to start a fire installing pipes . . .

Propane torch + dry wooden rafters next to pipes = messy.  I charred a few rafters in our attic when I put in a new water line.

Yomillo, sucks for your neighbors, hope they get everything worked out alright.  I doubt any judge would take the fact that working fire hydrants would not have prevented the fire into serious consideration. Fire departments and fire hydrants are set-up with tax payer money to respond to fires, not prevent them.  If the city installed fire hydrants and failed to connect them, they did not offer the protection implied or guaranteed by their presence.

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Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

I have a working fire hydrant in my front yard.
Sucks. My brothers dad tried to burn down our house once with us in it, but we wouldn't come home because we knew something was up. Installing some new water pipes, we started a fire and it scared us, but we were able to put it out.


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Yeah man...thats crazy...I'm sure considering all the facts though, after they've been displaced for awhile, the city will take care of them.

Now that being said, I believe Robocop is hijacking this thread.

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Well, the problem is that we have a community well, which is what would be supplying the hydrants. They currently don't because the water company didn't want to pay for it, so I imagine that if anyone, they would be the ones being sued or that have to issue a settlement as opposed to my town. Isn't it ultimatley the town's responsibility to take care of that though? I guess I'll just have to see how it all plays out. I don't think the family would take any kind of court action, they aren't really like that.

Snake, I have no idea how the emergency vehicles didn't wake me up. I don't think the sirens were going because we live in a dead-end development, so no traffic. I must have been really tired because I also slept through a 6:00 am appointment on my phone's calender.

I guess yesterday morning a guy who restores buildings showed up bright and early to the property and was talking to some of the neighboring kids. My next door neighbor told him to get the hell off the property, that he has no place there. I was pretty impressed, shes normally not one to take that kind of initiative. It made me laugh.

Anyways, I'll see if I can get a few pictures today. My mom walked the property yesterday. They were really lucky that the woods didn't ignight because I guess the heat was intense enough to completely melt the shudders on their shed, which is at least 40' away from the house.

I'm really interested to see if they can figure out what started the fire. Right now the only thing we know is that it probably wasn't started in the kitchen because their kitchen is right next to the garage, which only partially burned.
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