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Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:


I hope you feel a little less good the next time you get high. You may not be able to see the blood on your hands, but it is surely there.

Marijuana is not harmless.


Do not these problems arise due to the fact it's illegal?

Anyone can grow marijuana with some knowledge and a seed. It's a plant. There would be no violence associated with it if it were treated as just that.
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Originally posted by b1and b1and wrote:


Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

I hope you feel a little less good the next time you get high. You may not be able to see the blood on your hands, but it is surely there. Marijuana is not harmless.
Do not these problems arise due to the fact it's illegal?Anyone can grow marijuana with some knowledge and a seed. It's a plant. There would be no violence associated with it if it were treated as just that.


Untrue

Ever heard of a thing called coffee?
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Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:



I hope you feel a little less good the next time you get high. You may not be able to see the blood on your hands, but it is surely there.

Marijuana is not harmless.

You know what? Next time you drink starbucks, think of the the farmers being raided for their coffee beans. If you wear shoes, think of the kids in sweat shops being beaten and working for pennies a day making them. Same thing goes for any shirts you wear also. Cars are the same way also. Harmless fruit is also like this, just think of the kids being forced, whipped, and barely paid to pick it. And if you drive a car, look at how much blood is shed to put oil in it. There's blood on a lot of stuff you don't see, and weed isn't the worst of it bud.


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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by b1and b1and wrote:


Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

I hope you feel a little less good the next time you get high. You may not be able to see the blood on your hands, but it is surely there. Marijuana is not harmless.
Do not these problems arise due to the fact it's illegal?Anyone can grow marijuana with some knowledge and a seed. It's a plant. There would be no violence associated with it if it were treated as just that.


Untrue

Ever heard of a thing called coffee?
He's talking about growing it yourself...

So your argument doesn't hold really in his scenario.


Edited by Benjichang - 24 June 2008 at 1:47pm
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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by b1and b1and wrote:


Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

I hope you feel a little less good the next time you get high. You may not be able to see the blood on your hands, but it is surely there. Marijuana is not harmless.
Do not these problems arise due to the fact it's illegal?Anyone can grow marijuana with some knowledge and a seed. It's a plant. There would be no violence associated with it if it were treated as just that.


Untrue

Ever heard of a thing called coffee?
He's talking about growing it yourself...

So your argument doesn't hold really in his scenario.

Wait, you mean you don't grow your own coffee?
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Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:



I hope you feel a little less good the next time you get high. You may not be able to see the blood on your hands, but it is surely there.

Marijuana is not harmless.


You suck.



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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:



Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by b1and b1and wrote:


Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

I hope you feel a little less good the next time you get high. You may not be able to see the blood on your hands, but it is surely there. Marijuana is not harmless.
Do not these problems arise due to the fact it's illegal?Anyone can grow marijuana with some knowledge and a seed. It's a plant. There would be no violence associated with it if it were treated as just that.


Untrue

Ever heard of a thing called coffee?
He's talking about growing it yourself...So your argument doesn't hold really in his scenario.


Well... it was directed to his first sentence.
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I know a few of my local growers, really good people.
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Over Here It Just Got Moved Up From A Class C To A Class B.

Now It Is Under The Same Classification As Amphetamines (Speed)

So  You Just Don't Get It Taken Off You, It's A Trip To

The Cop Shop And Court, And The Penaltys Are Much Stiffer.

 

 



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That Is What Happens When You Let People

Who Have No Idea How Marijuana Affects

The Body Decide The Classification Of It
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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

Then you say "I grow my own", but no one who smokes marijuana has not had any that came from Mexico at one time or another.


You're an idiot. And "blood on your hands" Yeah...when I smoke marijuana grown in bc, which is then handed to my dealer, then handed to me, I'm really supporting bloody conflict. Wait...no....there IS no conflict about it here.


Well... that's actually not true.

Much of BC's weed and other drugs come from crime orgainzations such as the hells angels. There is definately conflict there.


Mine sure doesn't. It comes from a friend of a friend in Victoria. Peaceful friendly operation all around.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Legalization > decriminalization.

This is true...Also, pain killers aren't addictive unless you abuse them. Narcotic, or not(especially non narcotic)


Moronic; statement is moronic.
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Bah, this debate. Look, I want to see it legalized because it can help people, I mean really help some ill people. Sure, I dig the occasional puff and I'll take that as a bonus, why the hell not? The government KNOWS MJ can be a benefit and they prove it by allowing Marinol to be made. Of course it works like crap in comparison to the real thing, but look who's trying to get in the "game" eh? I feel bad for those patients that could use it more than I could, so for them, I'm gonna go burn one.
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Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Legalization > decriminalization.

This is true...Also, pain killers aren't addictive unless you abuse them. Narcotic, or not(especially non narcotic)


Moronic; statement is moronic.


How is that moronic?

You don't get addicted unless you abuse.

Que pasa?


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A bunch of ignorant children. Yes, dope grown in Canada does not contribute directly to violence in Mexico, but the vast majority of dope smoked in North America does come from Mexico. And let us not forget that Columbian and other South American dope finds it's way into North America via Mexico.

Coffee farmers may be being beaten and exploited, but they are not being decapitated in hospitals, nor are their entire families executed for resisting trafficking. More people were killed in marijuana related violence last week than have been killed in the coffee fields in the last, what? 20 years or so?

Whom exactly does dope help? Those poor souls who say they need to smoke it to treat pain from cancer or glaucoma? They never seem mention that the THC found in marijuana is available in pill form with a prescription, and that the pills are more effective than smoking.

I'm surprised no one has argued against marijuana's links to schizophrenia and other mental illnesses. Marijuana has been a great help to those people who have been affected.

Smoking dope doubles the risk of those who have no predisposition or genetic risk of schizophrenia for being affected. For the remaining 25% of us, smoking dope increases our likelihood of being affected from a fourfold to a tenfold factor, depending on the amount of genetic risk or predisposition.

Studies indicate that the smoking marijuana under the age of 18 can alter brain development significantly, having a lifetime effect. Other studies raise the age to 20. Adults for the most part can smoke marijuana with little to no risk.

On the other hand, how many people begin smoking dope (or cigarettes for that matter) as adults? Very few.




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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Legalization > decriminalization.

This is true...Also, pain killers aren't addictive unless you abuse them. Narcotic, or not(especially non narcotic)


Moronic; statement is moronic.


How is that moronic?

You don't get addicted unless you abuse.



Actually, pain killers consisting of opiates (Oxycontin, Oxycodeine, Hydrocodeine..) can become addictive even with normal recommended dosage.

Opiates are highly addictive.


And TRAVELER.. the international transport of dope to North America is a minute portion of the entire spectrum of marijuana sales and distribution. The point is, if there were a marijuana industry similar to todays tobacco industry, none of that would go on.
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trav, no one here is denying the fact marijuana can be harmful to your
health in large dosages, we're just saying that things like tobacco and
alcohol do way more and worse damage and they're perfectly legal.
We're just trying to make a point at that, youre kind of going off the deep
end here...youre acting like marijuana is the equivalent of conflict
diamonds or something. I can tell you everyone I know and myself buy
locally, from a guy who grows just down the road, as I'm sure many
people on this forum do also. Not everyone plays into your "hells angel
blood drug" conspiracy theory.

Its just pot dude...smoke a bowl and chill out.


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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Originally posted by Bunkered Bunkered wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Legalization > decriminalization.

This is true...Also, pain killers aren't addictive unless you abuse them. Narcotic, or not(especially non narcotic)


Moronic; statement is moronic.
How is that moronic?You don't get addicted unless you abuse.



I know plenty of people who became addicted to prescription painkillers from a perfectly legitimate use of them.
Is taking Vicoden the way a doctor tells you to considered "abuse" now?

Then there are always the people that have genetic predispositions to addiction, and become quite easily addicted to substances, even if they begin by using them in moderation.
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