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    Posted: 31 May 2008 at 8:07am

Im thinking about getting and Alpha black but Im not sure because they dont have that many upgrades with out modding the gun. Should I just get a 98c and upgrade it to make it look like an M4/M16?

 

Im also going to be using the gun for woodsball/scenario games.



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If it were me, I'd steer away from the AB, because I'd want to do the mod myself. It's more fun and you have the option of adding what YOU want. The downside is the money you'll dish out to make a sweet M-4/16 mod. It ain't cheap, but if you've got the loot and spending a little coin doesn't bug you, go for it. If I stuck to kits, my AK-98 wouldn't look as unique as it does. Another thing is, if you ever get bored of your mod, you can change it. AB's won't give you that option. It'll always be an M-16.
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Get the ABT!!!!

I absolutly love this marker...!!!

When you MOD a 98C to look like an M-16 or anything, it really does not look as realistic as the design of the Alpha... I have done lots of work to mine. Check it out! All the 98 upgrades are overpriced and wayyyyyy to expensive! No matter what you do to a 98C it will always just look like a 98C with some stuff bolted to it.

Hope you decide on the Alpha!

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Originally posted by techietaichi techietaichi wrote:

If it were me, I'd steer away from the AB, because I'd want to do the mod myself. It's more fun and you have the option of adding what YOU want. The downside is the money you'll dish out to make a sweet M-4/16 mod. It ain't cheap, but if you've got the loot and spending a little coin doesn't bug you, go for it. If I stuck to kits, my AK-98 wouldn't look as unique as it does. Another thing is, if you ever get bored of your mod, you can change it. AB's won't give you that option. It'll always be an M-16.

 

Can you send me what your 98c looks like?

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If you want to get a marker and mod it out to look like something other than an M4/M16 type of weapon I'd say start with the 98C.

If you're fine with an M4 marker, the AB will save you the money that you'd spend on a 98C+stock+handguard/barrel+magazine kit + maybe even a carry handle.  The Alpha Black may not have many upgrades but it comes with most of what you'd need anyways and modding it isn't difficult at all.  For example adding a scope onto the carry handle took me 5 minutes with a drill.

As far as performance both have the same internals and the same Tippmann reliability; I've put about 1000 rounds through my AB so far and have yet to break a ball so knock on wood.
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Originally posted by insofar insofar wrote:

No matter what you do to a 98C it will always just look like a 98C with some stuff bolted to it.


I disagree. My marker's already being mistaken for an A5, so there goes that theory friend. And I see a lot of "Bolt-on" mods that are damn sweet. You have to know how to combine all the elements of the marker; barrel, stock, rails, accesories, everything, so they work together and have a good flow.



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How much did all the mods w/ the 98c cost you?

 

Looks good by the way.



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Techie what did you use to cover your steel braided hose? (sorry if I'm thread hijacking)
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Originally posted by Grumbacher Grumbacher wrote:

Techie what did you use to cover your steel braided hose? (sorry if I'm thread hijacking)

Looks like electrical tape...
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Originally posted by XDG SCORPION XDG SCORPION wrote:

How much did all the mods w/ the 98c cost you? Looks good by the way.

I got my 98C six years ago, summer/fall of '02 for like $135. All said though, my marker's right at $800. I did re-sell a lot of the replaced parts, so the expense didn't hurt as much. A lot of this gun was funded with stuff I had around the house that I sold on ebaY. College text books, paintball gear, computer gear, sold a lot of fedoras for it too. This mod was a lot of fun.

Originally posted by Grumbacher Grumbacher wrote:

Techie what did you use to cover your steel braided hose? (sorry if I'm thread hijacking)

Np man. All it is is split loom tubing wrapped with electrical tape. When you wind the tape, it has to be a little taught so that the 'ribs' show through ok. It's nice to be rid of that ugly braided hose.
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I agree with insofar, the Alpha Black IMO is the best choice for your
money. The 98 is a great gun, but the money you have to put in it to get
it to look good is crazy. You drop $130 on the Alpha, and it already
looks sweet, right out of the box.
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Originally posted by techietaichi techietaichi wrote:

Originally posted by XDG SCORPION XDG SCORPION wrote:

How much did all the mods w/ the 98c cost you? Looks good by the way.

I got my 98C six years ago, summer/fall of '02 for like $135. All said though, my marker's right at $800. I did re-sell a lot of the replaced parts, so the expense didn't hurt as much. A lot of this gun was funded with stuff I had around the house that I sold on ebaY. College text books, paintball gear, computer gear, sold a lot of fedoras for it too. This mod was a lot of fun. 

Yeah Ill probably do that but Im not that sure. Because I dont feel like spending 99 just for a shroud. Maybe after I get a little better in paintball,get a team together,win a few local tounements and get some money I can blow I will get a tippmann and do that to it, (my mom said I have to start saving because I need $ for a car when Im 16) or should I just by a tippmann and slowly upgrade it? If im going to do what you did what tippmann should I start with?

http://www.paintball-online.com/paintball/product_informatio n.asp?number=GNTPLAK

or

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productI d=2816147&ab=Concept_Tippman_Custom98

 



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My advice, get a plain 98. Don't get one with the upgrades already on it, because if you decide to go another route with the look then you've wasted money (you can re-sell the parts of course, but the less you have to do that the better).

Get a plain 98c and use it non-stop. Get the gun broken in and then slowly build up. Each piece that you do decide to add will feel right then. It may take longer to get the gun looking the way you want it to, but it won't feel as expensive as doing it all at once.

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Originally posted by Nagash1959 Nagash1959 wrote:

My advice, get a plain 98. Don't get one with the upgrades already on it, because if you decide to go another route with the look then you've wasted money (you can re-sell the parts of course, but the less you have to do that the better).

Get a plain 98c and use it non-stop. Get the gun broken in and then slowly build up. Each piece that you do decide to add will feel right then. It may take longer to get the gun looking the way you want it to, but it won't feel as expensive as doing it all at once.

Yeah but I only want to spend about $200 a year on paintball mods and most of the mods are expensive, plus im going to get a plain reg tippmann in a few years and up that one to look like a m16/m4 look.

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Ive been looking and I found a Tippmann 98 Custom AK Tactical Conversion Kit for only $79. Some of the stuff on the website is cheapish so Im going to buy the stuff from the website I found. They have lasers to real wood ak47 mods for all the tippmanns.
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theres alot of 98 parts that fits on the AB.. on my AB, the mods i have done

 

Weaver rails on front guard with foregrip

14" J&J cermaic barrel

carry handle weaver mount

40MM red dot

cyclone feeder mod with X7 hopper

squishy paddes, vortex ratchet, lightning rod, QEPH

light pull trigger mod

APE Rampage egrip v2

JCS blew power tube with front bolt.

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Originally posted by techietaichi techietaichi wrote:


I got my 98C six years ago, summer/fall of '02 for like $135. All said though, my marker's right at $800. I did re-sell a lot of the replaced parts, so the expense didn't hurt as much.


Holy Schnikeys! You could have gotten and ACTUAL AK for that amount!

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Originally posted by Nikolai049 Nikolai049 wrote:

Holy Schnikeys! You could have gotten and ACTUAL AK for that amount!


More like 2.
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Originally posted by techietaichi techietaichi wrote:

More like 2.


I agree 800 is a little rediculous for a pb gun. but with it you have the joy of PwNiNg n00bZ without spending life in prison or getting the death penalty! :D
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Originally posted by Grumbacher Grumbacher wrote:

Techie what did you use to cover your steel braided hose? (sorry if I'm thread hijacking)

Np man. All it is is split loom tubing wrapped with electrical tape. When you wind the tape, it has to be a little taught so that the 'ribs' show through ok. It's nice to be rid of that ugly braided hose.[/QUOTE]

i did the same with mine, the stuff works great dont it.

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