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    Posted: 20 May 2008 at 6:16am
Hi!
I know that there's a lot of messages about modding the Alpha Black, but i couldnt find a definitve and simple answer about my question.
So, i'm sorry if i'm being repetitive.

I'm buying an Alpha Black, and the only thing that i want to add is a 30mm red dot scope, from TASCO.

My questions are:
1. I don't need fancy rails, right? One of these 8 US$ rails should work? If not, which are the best options for the Alpha Black?

2. Now the most important. Will i be able to install the scope correctly, alined to the gun body, with full vision, without changing the original hopper, or do i need to by a cyclone or adapt some elbow hopper? If yes, which?
I ask it because some guys said that yes, some said that the hopper press the scope, some said that the hopper stays on the way. No idea...

Pictures or old threads of the answer would be also great.
Thanks.

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uh oh. wrong forum.

but i would first go and see if you really want a red dot. I think the rail would be a good milsim up, but before you go and buy a red-dot see if you can find one to look through and decide if you really still want one. use the search tool for the old posts.

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I got my cary handle mount for my Alpha black at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/WEAVER-PICATINNY-STANAG-SCOPE-RAIL-CARRY -HANDLE-MOUNT_W0QQitemZ300225335677QQihZ020QQcategoryZ52510Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You have to drill a hole in the hadle to mount the rail. Not hard to install... 1/4in. drill bit will do.

As for the hopper, I have a 98 cyclone with a low profile X7 Hopper and I have no problems with clearance with my  TACTICAL RED DOT 4 RETICLE

http://cgi.ebay.com/TACTICAL-RED-DOT-4-RETICLE-CROSSHAIR-SIG HT-RIFLE-PISTOL_W0QQitemZ280227996378QQihZ018QQcategoryZ6682 7QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Originally posted by andremarron andremarron wrote:

Hi!
I know that there's a lot of messages about modding the Alpha Black, but i couldnt find a definitve and simple answer about my question.
So, i'm sorry if i'm being repetitive.

I'm buying an Alpha Black, and the only thing that i want to add is a 30mm red dot scope, from TASCO.

My questions are:
1. I don't need fancy rails, right? One of these 8 US$ rails should work? If not, which are the best options for the Alpha Black?

2. Now the most important. Will i be able to install the scope correctly, alined to the gun body, with full vision, without changing the original hopper, or do i need to by a cyclone or adapt some elbow hopper? If yes, which?
I ask it because some guys said that yes, some said that the hopper press the scope, some said that the hopper stays on the way. No idea...

Pictures or old threads of the answer would be also great.
Thanks.

You will have to install your red dot either on the side of the carrying handle or you will have to buy a cyclone for the 98c, do a little groove in it in order for it to fit the Alpha and your ready to rock and roll!. And if you have cyclone, either a X7 Hopper or a tapcap will do fine. The cyclone gives you the clearance. Without the cyclone your screwed, other than if you screw a picatinny rail on the side of the carrying handle and put your red dot on the side, but it will look awfull!

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I just put a 4x22 scope on my ABT and found shortly thereafter that my regular hopper does not fit with it on  I have a 50 round hopper that I plan on using when I play and I plan on eventually putting on a cyclone feed so its not a huge problem but something I didn't forsee.

A red dot would not stick out so far that the hopper would not fit on as in my case and (if you're looking through it with both eyes open) you should probably not even see the hopper.
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yes you can
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Originally posted by andremarron andremarron wrote:



My questions are:
1. I don't need fancy rails, right? One of these 8 US$ rails should work? If not, which are the best options for the Alpha Black
On what website might i find this rail on?



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Any website that sells AR-15 M-16 assesories. Google can be very helpful on this.
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i bought a 45 degree piece of copper pipe to use as an elbow when i got my red dot on. works great but you got jiggle the gun if ya dont have an electro hopper on it.
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