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Tolgak wrote: Bunkered wrote: Well, I'm trying my hardest not to bash on atheism. I can only restrain myself so much. It takes quite a bit to insult an atheist by his beliefs. Usually we feel insulted when your thoughts of us come about by lies and misconceptions. Otherwise most don't care.Go ahead. Tell us your gripes.

The fact that any time I've talked to an atheist about any aspect of religion (IE: not preaching at them), the conversation instantly turns to, "LOLZ! You have an imaginary friend in the sky. Does he hang out with Santa and the Easter Bunny?" and so on.

That and the whole killings babies/raping women/burning churches thing.

But seriously... If Susan had read my previous posts she might have seen that I was not insulted by what she said, but rather commented on it being an inflammatory remark on her part.
It takes a bit more than that to offend me. I'm not exactly the most politically correct person around and will basically make fun of anyone/anthing , so when it comes my way I just take it and move on.

mbro wrote: Susan Storm wrote: Bunkered wrote: Well, I'm trying my hardest not to bash on atheism. I can only restrain myself so much. Bash away. Here here

BABY-KILLER!
YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN THE FIRE OF 1000 SUNS!
Repent, I say, heathens!

Bunkered wrote: The fact that any time I've talked to an atheist about any aspect of religion (IE: not preaching at them), the conversation instantly turns to, "LOLZ! You have an imaginary friend in the sky. Does he hang out with Santa and the Easter Bunny?" and so on.

And again, I can promise you that you are wrong.  For every atheist that reacts that way, there are ten that say nothing at all.

You are letting saliency get the better of you.

Bunkered wrote: Tolgak wrote: Bunkered wrote: Well, I'm trying my hardest not to bash on atheism. I can only restrain myself so much. It takes quite a bit to insult an atheist by his beliefs. Usually we feel insulted when your thoughts of us come about by lies and misconceptions. Otherwise most don't care.Go ahead. Tell us your gripes. The fact that any time I've talked to an atheist about any aspect of religion (IE: not preaching at them), the conversation instantly turns to, "LOLZ! You have an imaginary friend in the sky. Does he hang out with Santa and the Easter Bunny?" and so on. That and the whole killings babies/raping women/burning churches thing. So your problem is that most atheists think your beliefs are funny. There's a good quote about that, but I'm afraid that by posting it, I'll qualify for your "laughing atheists" club. The other problem I can derive is that I don't think you've ever spoken to civil atheists. Most of us joke because 1) We think your beliefs are funny 2) Logical arguments don't make it past the Broab of many religious peoples' brains. But seriously... If Susan had read my previous posts she might have seen that I was not insulted by what she said, but rather commented on it being an inflammatory remark on her part. It takes a bit more than that to offend me. I'm not exactly the most politically correct person around and will basically make fun of anyone/anthing , so when it comes my way I just take it and move on. So if you're like that, why is it wrong for us to be non-PC and make fun of you?

Edited by Tolgak - 31 March 2008 at 12:46am

Susan Storm wrote: Bunkered wrote: BABY-KILLER! YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN THE FIRE OF 1000 SUNS! Repent, I say, heathens! Boo. Come on - seriously.  You're a smart guy, this is your chance for an intelligent response to your concerns.

I have already voiced my concerns.
See my response to Tolga K's post.

I guess my biggest problem with atheists is.... You guys just don't seem to be tactful in your presentation whatsoever.

Tolgak wrote: Bunkered wrote: Tolgak wrote: Bunkered wrote: Well, I'm trying my hardest not to bash on atheism. I can only restrain myself so much. It takes quite a bit to insult an atheist by his beliefs. Usually we feel insulted when your thoughts of us come about by lies and misconceptions. Otherwise most don't care.Go ahead. Tell us your gripes. The fact that any time I've talked to an atheist about any aspect of religion (IE: not preaching at them), the conversation instantly turns to, "LOLZ! You have an imaginary friend in the sky. Does he hang out with Santa and the Easter Bunny?" and so on. That and the whole killings babies/raping women/burning churches thing. <br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">So your problem is that most atheists think your beliefs are funny. </span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> <br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> There's a good quote about that, but I'm afraid that by posting it, I'll qualify for your "laughing atheists" club.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">The other problem I can derive is that I don't think you've ever spoken to civil atheists. Most of us joke because1) We think your beliefs are funny2) Logical arguments don't make it past the Broab of many religious peoples' brains.</span> But seriously... If Susan had read my previous posts she might have seen that I was not insulted by what she said, but rather commented on it being an inflammatory remark on her part. It takes a bit more than that to offend me. I'm not exactly the most politically correct person around and will basically make fun of anyone/anthing , so when it comes my way I just take it and move on.<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">So if you're like that, why is it wrong for us to be non-PC and make fun of you?</span>

Laugh away...
I just said I don't care in like 3 consecutive posts.

But please, come up with something better than "LOLZ, Christians are teh uber-dumb."

mbro wrote: Susan Storm wrote: Bunkered wrote: Well, I'm trying my hardest not to bash on atheism. I can only restrain myself so much. Bash away. Here here

Oh come on, just do it.

Explain why there rationally is a god.

Or that if there is an allmighty god, why would they care if you pray to them or worship them or not? Why is religion the answer and out of all the many others, why is yours correct?

Bunkered wrote: What makes you think that's an incorrect generalization? Should I limit this to "forum atheists?"

Because, as I have pointed out in numerous posts, most atheists spend most of their time specifically avoiding the subject and just blending in.  And that includes on this forum as well.

Susan Storm wrote: Bunkered wrote: What makes you think that's an incorrect generalization? Should I limit this to "forum atheists?" Because, as I have pointed out in numerous posts, most atheists spend most of their time specifically avoiding the subject and just blending in.  And that includes on this forum as well.

Yeah, I'll back susan's post on this. I'm an atheist and I have not said much this entire thread. In fact I barely ever argue religion on this forum. There are a bunch of people in pbc that are the same way.


Edited by Snake6 - 31 March 2008 at 1:16am

Susan Storm wrote: Bunkered wrote: BABY-KILLER! YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN THE FIRE OF 1000 SUNS! Repent, I say, heathens! Boo. Come on - seriously.  You're a smart guy, this is your chance for an intelligent response to your concerns.

How about something like this:

I can't believe the arrogance of you atheists, convincing yourself that there is nothing in this universe that is greater or beyond yourself.