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Originally posted by Snake6. Snake6. wrote:

Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

A smartass 20-year-old charged with underage drinking who claimed he was actually 21 (if you counted from conception

I would so do that.


Haha

You see, you have to have a License to murder a fetus. IF you don't have a license (and your just murdering the host creature), then its illegal.
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Personally, I am against abortion in 99.99% of all situations. (except if it could be proven that there is a high enough chance that it would kill the mother)

I also believe that is abortion were to have to be legal no matter what, the decision should be required to be accepted by the father too.

Though in this situaton, I don't think it is as connected to an argument against abortion as it looks. Abortion has always been about the choice of the mother. In this case, the murderer is taking that choice from the mother and so, it can hardly be compared with a willing abortion.
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Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Missouri a few years back enacted a law declaring that life begins at conception - presumably to set up an abortion fight (other states have similar laws).  Two lawsuits followed shortly:  A <poopy> 20-year-old charged with underage drinking who claimed he was actually 21 (if you counted from conception), and an imprisoned pregnant woman demanding release because her unborn child was being unlawfully detained in prison.


Originally posted by Snake6. Snake6. wrote:

I would so do that.

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I am against abortion because it is clear that the baby is NOT part of the mothers body.  She can do whatever she wants to her body but the baby is not part of it, it just hangs out in thre for 9 months.  The DNA of the mother and baby are different and thus they are not the same person. 

Thats my opinion atleast.

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Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

20-year-old charged with underage drinking who claimed he was actually 21 (if you counted from conception),
brilliant

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Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

I am against abortion because it is clear that the baby is NOT part of the mothers body.  She can do whatever she wants to her body but the baby is not part of it, it just hangs out in thre for 9 months.  The DNA of the mother and baby are different and thus they are not the same person. 

Thats my opinion atleast.



Technically a baby is a parasite. A law on that basis alone would make it illegal to take antibiotics.
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Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

I am against abortion because it is clear that the baby is NOT part of the mothers body.  She can do whatever she wants to her body but the baby is not part of it, it just hangs out in thre for 9 months.  The DNA of the mother and baby are different and thus they are not the same person. 

Thats my opinion atleast.



Technically a baby is a parasite. A law on that basis alone would make it illegal to take antibiotics.


I love that sentence. Come to think about it, its true. It feeds off of what you eat, its living inside of you growing bigger and bigger, just like say a tape worm.
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Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

I am against abortion because it is clear that the baby is NOT part of the mothers body.  She can do whatever she wants to her body but the baby is not part of it, it just hangs out in thre for 9 months.  The DNA of the mother and baby are different and thus they are not the same person. 

Thats my opinion atleast.



Technically a baby is a parasite. A law on that basis alone would make it illegal to take antibiotics.


wow... you earned yourself the quote of the week.
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I need to make two clarifications on that statement.

1) Replace baby with fetus. I would consider a baby as something that has been born and is living.

2) I, in no way, condone abortion on that basis.
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I don't consider something human until it gains sense permenance, and then self-awareness, but that's just me.
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Lets kill old people at birth.
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Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

I don't consider something human until it gains sense permenance, and then self-awareness, but that's just me.


So a 1-month old isn't human?
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Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

She can do whatever she wants to her body but the baby is not part of it


So smoking, drinking, cocaine, and getting kicked in the stomach all have no affect on the baby?
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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

I have DEFINITELY heard this argument before...

(also pro-choice)

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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

She can do whatever she wants to her body but the baby is not part of it


So smoking, drinking, cocaine, and getting kicked in the stomach all have no affect on the baby?


Or having sex with a coat hanger.
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Dude, your back is hideous.

We get what all the scratches mean, but seriously, the paleness and the moles have gotta go.

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Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

Dude, your back is hideous.

We get what all the scratches mean, but seriously, the paleness and the moles have gotta go.

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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:



I also believe that is abortion were to have to be legal no matter what, the decision should be required to be accepted by the father too.



Lolwut.

Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

I am against abortion because it is clear that the baby is NOT part of the mothers body.



Lolwut.
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What about it.

Wy shouldn't the father have input over their child?
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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

What about it.

Wy shouldn't the father have input over their child?
He should.
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