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    Posted: 19 February 2008 at 2:51am
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Military Simulation. Basically trying to replicate actual warfare as closely as you can, in gear and appearances. I think it's boring, and way too serious to be fun.
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waste of money and feeds a negative stereotype
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Originally posted by a5Tpp789 a5Tpp789 wrote:

waste of money and feeds a negative stereotype

Agreed.

I also suggest you watch your language on here.


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I disagree.  Milsim is more fun than speedball to me.  Using different settings (buildings, woods, forts, etc.)  and haveing mods that make the marker look a lil more realistic is enjoyable.  Now if you prefer speedball then congrats... just not my style.  To each his own.
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you can play senario without trying to look like a swat member or carrying around an m4 98c
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Originally posted by DzXs DzXs wrote:

you can play senario without trying to look like a swat member or carrying around an m4 98c

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Scenario >>>>>>> mil-sim.

And he didn't really cuss, I assume. Just said something which is now edited...

So you use an alternate form of a blocked word? Dummy.



Edited by Reb Cpl - 29 February 2008 at 11:47am
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That is still considered a filter dodge...
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I appreciate both kinds, granted weighing down your marker serves no significant purpose and wearing pounds of BDU's, boots, vests, gloves etc is just for show (unless you banking on molding with the foilage around you)  BUT some would say it's part of the fun! and that's what paintball is all about, having a good time, and if dressing up is a certain aspect of it, then... a votre gout!

I also like the lightness of speedball clothing and guns.

don't let people tell you milsim and paintball don't mix. lets not forget many gvt forces use milsim and scenario paintball for training purposes.

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Originally posted by kungura kungura wrote:

don't let people tell you milsim and paintball don't mix. lets not forget many gvt forces use milsim and scenario paintball for training purposes.


Please tell me what section of the government uses scenario or milsim paintball as a primary training tool?


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ah, you've misunderstood once again, it's alright, i'll explain.

I never said as a primary tool, but you must be aware of the US ARMY, SAS, Greek Forces, GSF and others in Europe...which have used, and still do whether it be for team communications, forced entry tactics, dealing with incoming fire etc. 

lets not forget the 'paintball terrorists' (I joke) 

 all these (and i'm sure plenty more) utilize paintball as a small part in their tactical training using not regular paintballs, but 'simunitions' if you will.

 

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Originally posted by kungura kungura wrote:

ah, you've misunderstood once again, it's alright, i'll explain.

I never said as a primary tool, but you must be aware of the US ARMY, SAS, Greek Forces, GSF and others in Europe...which have used, and still do whether it be for team communications, forced entry tactics, dealing with incoming fire etc. 

lets not forget the 'paintball terrorists' (I joke) 

 all these (and i'm sure plenty more) utilize paintball as a small part in their tactical training using not regular paintballs, but 'simunitions' if you will.

 


Simunitions  are not paintball, they are a completely different animal and in no way do they even come close to resembling paintball.

Real paintball markers are rarely ever used used in training because of the inherent flaws that are associated with paintball. The few times they were used in the US military were in testbed environments where paintball was being evaluated to see if it could be used as a effective training tool. In most cases it was not proven as a effective method. Don't go making sweeping generalizations when you don't know what the reality of what you are talking about is.
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Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:


Originally posted by kungura kungura wrote:

ah, you've misunderstood once again, it's alright, i'll explain.


I never said as a primary tool, but you must be aware of the US ARMY, SAS, Greek Forces, GSF and others in Europe...which have used, and still do whether it be for team communications, forced entry tactics, dealing with incoming fire etc.


lets not forget the 'paintball terrorists' (I joke)


all these (and i'm sure plenty more) utilize paintball as a small part in their tactical training using not regular paintballs, but 'simunitions' if you will.


Simunitions are not paintball, they are a completely different animal and in no way do they even come close to resembling paintball.Real paintball markers are rarely ever used used in training because of the inherent flaws that are associated with paintball. The few times they were used in the US military were in testbed environments where paintball was being evaluated to see if it could be used as a effective training tool. In most cases it was not proven as a effective method. Don't go making sweeping generalizations when you don't know what the reality of what you are talking about is.


OMG no, they train ALL THE TIME with paintball, you don't know anything.
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I don't see anything wrong with millsim really.

Except for the guys who take it WAY to seriously.

Like the 45 year old men at my field who show up every week in full cammo and the latest in opsgear additions that play the game exactly like a combat situation.
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I do agree that you dont NEED the cosmetic upgrades or the BDUs but it does add an element  I like.  I also dont think that someone needs to be able to shoot over 15 bps but people still want to, and that is their choice.  Paintball is all about having fun so like I said, to each his own.
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I've taken the liberty to move the milsim + military training part to the 'thoughts and opinions' board.  Have a read, i think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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Woodsball/Scenario/MILSIM is just another way to enjoy the game, the wilderness, the comraderie, whatever you may. Speedball is cool too, if you enjoy going through case after case of paint, with colorful guns, and blow-up (sorry inflateable) bunkers. Sounds like a kids game, but to each his own, right? I believe I've seen that phrase a time or two on this forum.
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Disreguarding the OMG what will the world think of us posts from the over sensible tourney players ( ) here. MILSIM is just a style of paintball wich much like First Person Shooters are to Video Games. It's just another game.

The trick to MILSIM to be both Practical and Tactical. To find a balance between the two so you dont make yourself obsolete when playing larger games.
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Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Originally posted by kungura kungura wrote:

ah, you've misunderstood once again, it's alright, i'll explain.

I never said as a primary tool, but you must be aware of the US ARMY, SAS, Greek Forces, GSF and others in Europe...which have used, and still do whether it be for team communications, forced entry tactics, dealing with incoming fire etc. 

lets not forget the 'paintball terrorists' (I joke) 

 all these (and i'm sure plenty more) utilize paintball as a small part in their tactical training using not regular paintballs, but 'simunitions' if you will.

 


Simunitions  are not paintball, they are a completely different animal and in no way do they even come close to resembling paintball.

Real paintball markers are rarely ever used used in training because of the inherent flaws that are associated with paintball. The few times they were used in the US military were in testbed environments where paintball was being evaluated to see if it could be used as a effective training tool. In most cases it was not proven as a effective method. Don't go making sweeping generalizations when you don't know what the reality of what you are talking about is.

Actually they still do..... Buddy got back from SWAT training for Security Forces. They used paintball for his first stage, then follow into simunitions.

So don't think you know everything because your in the military. There is more than one branch of the military.

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