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Dye Playa
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Posted: 14 February 2008 at 11:42pm |
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South bronx, huh. I probably know a few people who your dad busted lol. |
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Reb Cpl
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 8:02am |
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Ever spend any time at the range out there on City Island? Rodman's Neck? My father in law is the senior firearms instructor out there. |
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Ceesman762
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 11:50am |
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Have not been on a police range. My father locked up Curtis Sliwa, you know him?
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PaiNTbALLfReNzY
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 12:00pm |
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Arming the police so they can effectively do their job? Sounds logical!?
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Dye Playa
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 12:05pm |
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Nope, not that I'm going to say names anyways though lol. |
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Ceesman762
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 12:08pm |
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Curtis Sliwa of the Guardian Angels. |
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Mack
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 2:42pm |
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Ha, Ha. I was hoping
that you were one of the people who might have been around long enough and had
the right experience to know what I was talking about. All I can say for sure is I don't remember
them being in the inventory or being mentioned in training after we upgraded to
the M16A2.
Tallen, nicely put. I quoted the entire post just because it explains the comparison of the weapons in question so well. One of the things I always find amusing about discussions such as these is how strong the opinions are of some people who demonstrate very little actual knowledge of the subject. As an amusing side note one of my more rabidly anti-gun friends thought that semi-auto pistols should be banned because they use the same ammunition as assault rifles. I eventually figured out that he gained this bit of information from playing the Half Life games. To be fair, I knew an individual on the other side of the gun control issue who once told me that the second amendment came about because of the civil war. To get back to the original subject (sort of) I have to wonder how many of the forum members who argue against giving law enforcement better weapons to defend themselves with/perform their duties in life and death situations also view paintball pistols as useless and would never use one in the much less serious realm of paintball because of the disadvantages inherent to them. |
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oreomann33
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 4:11pm |
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British police don't carry guns at all.
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Ceesman762
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 4:31pm |
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Special units of the British Police do carry handguns, mainly the ones on airport security
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TheSpookyKids87
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 5:07pm |
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I don't think they should have them, as a person who spends several nights in Wayne, goes to school there, and works there.
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Linus
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 9:34pm |
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Good job at being totally un-informed. |
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Skillet42565
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 9:36pm |
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Good job at being a complete tool. Again. |
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Linus
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 9:45pm |
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Ironic. |
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Skillet42565
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 9:53pm |
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Ironic? Am I the one spouting off like an expert on matters that I know little to nothing about? Please, never reproduce, although I don't think that concern is high, I'd rather not risk it. |
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carl_the_sniper
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 10:20pm |
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GI JOES SON
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 10:27pm |
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well its true that the british don't carry guns. it's sort of like that robin williams skit; "they just say, 'stop! or i'll yell stop again!'"
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Linus
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 10:42pm |
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Who are you to say what I do and do not know? Just because you don't agree with some of my opinions doesn't mean they are wrong because they are simply that: opinions. Please, quit acting like a jackass macho man on the internet, it does nothing for you. |
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Snake6
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 10:42pm |
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Not all British Police officers carry weapons, but some do. Also Britain's laws involving the use of military in domestic situations are completely different than that of the US. Also it is basically illegal to own a gun in Britain so there are alot less firearm related incidents. |
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Linus
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 10:46pm |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4706787.stm Edited by Linus - 15 February 2008 at 10:48pm |
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tallen702
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Posted: 15 February 2008 at 10:47pm |
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Actually, it's not true. While the standard police "bobby" in GB doesn't carry a side arm while on a walking route, they do possess fire arms. As the current system stands, at any given moment, there are roving patrol cars called armed response units which patrol neighborhoods in larger cities and act as regular patrol units in smaller suburban and rural areas. These patrol units carry 3 officers per unit in the city, all armed with extra armaments in the vehicles should officers on the scene require firearms. In rural situations, they typically are manned by 2 constable teams. The standard issue small arm for the ARU is the H&K MP5. They may also carry more specialized weapons such as the MSG-901 and G36C as well as Remington pump-action shotguns to make materiel available to the officers on the scene or in route should a situation arise when specialize weapons would be needed. Units patrolling airports and other high-security-risk areas are generally armed with sidearms or sub-machine-guns as well. The British Nuclear regulatory agency police are also constantly armed as are the Ministry of Defense police. The only other force that carries their own side arms at all times is the Northern Ireland police force. While they may not openly carry on the beat, weapons are available at a moments notice. The police in GB have come under scrutiny in recent years for not arming their every-day police forces as it has resulted in a rise in officer casualties as well as the fact that the violent crime and gun-crime records of the past 25 years have been proven to be falsified (artificially low) and there is a belief that many of the violent crimes/murders could have been prevented if an officer had ready access to a fire-arm to prevent the perpetrator from being able to carry out further acts rather than have the officer need to enter a hand-to-hand combat situation with said perp. |
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