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    Posted: 01 February 2008 at 4:07pm
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Some pretty cool stuff in this movie, I def learned some new things.

I'm still watching it, still in the religion stuff. Not sure what's after this

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A friend tried to get me to watch it, but conspiracies theories and nutjobs only serve to make me laugh.

My favorite part is how they try to tell me 9/11 was a government job.
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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

A friend tried to get me to watch it, but conspiracies theories and nutjobs only serve to make me laugh.My favorite part is how they try to tell me 9/11 was a government job.


Yeah, I'm at that part now...its deff overdone.

I really like the start of the movie, the religion stuff was great and very informative. Now that it's getting into 9/11....meh
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Yeah, thats the part where I clicked off, too over the top aluminum foil for me.
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Wow, Chewp, I am surprised.  Not only is this quite old, it is a load of crap.

http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2952
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Originally posted by Hysteria Hysteria wrote:

Wow, Chewp, I am surprised. Not only is this quite old, it is a load of crap.http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2952


All who you want to beleive I suppose.
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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

...conspiracies theories and nutjobs only serve to make me laugh.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

All who you want to beleive I suppose.


Originally posted by Wikipedia Wikipedia wrote:

In addition to attracting significant public interest,[4] it has been criticized for relying too heavily on anecdotal evidence[7] and for using unidentified, undated, and unsourced video news clips, voice-overs, quotes, and book citations without page numbers.[8][9] In one of its few mainstream reviews the Irish Times called it "unhinged" and accused it of offering nothing but "surreal perversions of genuine issues and debates".[4]


Also:

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/06/jay-kinney-reviews-z.ht ml

A couple of minutes in google can find even more stuff than this.

Honestly though, I believed this when I first saw it as well, until I started looking around.  Heck, at some forum I visited about Atheism and Religion, if one even mentioned the Zeitgeist, they were pretty much automatically discredited.





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Originally posted by Hysteria Hysteria wrote:

<font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

All who <font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">you want to beleive I suppose.
Originally posted by Wikipedia Wikipedia wrote:

In addition to attracting significant public interest,<sup id="_ref-IrishTimes_1" ="reference">[4"></sup> it has been criticized for relying too heavily on anecdotal evidence<sup id="_ref-3" ="reference">[7"></sup>
and for using unidentified, undated, and unsourced video news clips,
voice-overs, quotes, and book citations without page numbers.<sup id="_ref-4" ="reference">[8"></sup><sup id="_ref-5" ="reference">[9"></sup> In one of its few mainstream reviews the Irish Times called it "unhinged" and accused it of offering nothing but "surreal perversions of genuine issues and debates".<sup id="_ref-IrishTimes_2" ="reference"><font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">[4">
<font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">Also:<font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/06/jay-kinney-reviews-z.ht ml<font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">A couple of minutes in google can find even more stuff than this.Honestly though, I believed this when I first saw it as well, until I started looking around. Heck, at some forum I visited about Atheism and Religion, if one even mentioned the Zeitgeist, they were pretty much automatically discredited.</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"></sup>


Well yeah, you have to take anything like this with a grain of salt. Can't just blindly beleive it straight up
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Hysteria Hysteria wrote:

<font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

All who <font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">you want to beleive I suppose.
Originally posted by Wikipedia Wikipedia wrote:

In addition to attracting significant public interest,<sup id="_ref-IrishTimes_1" ="reference">[4"></sup> it has been criticized for relying too heavily on anecdotal evidence<sup id="_ref-3" ="reference">[7"></sup>
and for using unidentified, undated, and unsourced video news clips,
voice-overs, quotes, and book citations without page numbers.<sup id="_ref-4" ="reference">[8"></sup><sup id="_ref-5" ="reference">[9"></sup> In one of its few mainstream reviews the Irish Times called it "unhinged" and accused it of offering nothing but "surreal perversions of genuine issues and debates".<sup id="_ref-IrishTimes_2" ="reference"><font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">[4">
<font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">Also:<font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/06/jay-kinney-reviews-z.ht ml<font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2"><span style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">A couple of minutes in google can find even more stuff than this.Honestly though, I believed this when I first saw it as well, until I started looking around. Heck, at some forum I visited about Atheism and Religion, if one even mentioned the Zeitgeist, they were pretty much automatically discredited.</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"></sup>


Well yeah, you have to take anything like this with a grain of salt. Can't just blindly beleive it straight up


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Just because he got that on 9/11 doesn't mean he was doing THAT.  Maybe he was just being derogatory.
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I don't know, I'm watching it now.

I could definitly believe some of the stuff that is being raised and semi-presented to the audience.

A better put-together and less threatening version of the film with confirmed sources, etc, could be a very powerful and provocative piece.

There definitly is some shady **edited** that goes on around us.


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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Yeah, thats the part where I clicked off, too over the top aluminum foil for me.


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If you go to any serious religious/atheism debate forum and mention that movie and say you believe it you will be mocked. The information presented in the movie is backed by no evidence, no sources, no theological understanding, and most importantly, no facts. Another failed attempt at trying to undermine Christianity.

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Originally posted by fractus.scud fractus.scud wrote:

<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">If you go to any serious religious/atheism debate forum and mention that movie and say you believe it you will be mocked. The information presented in the movie is backed by no evidence, no sources, no theological understanding, and most importantly, no facts. Another failed attempt at trying to undermine Christianity. </span></span>

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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by fractus.scud fractus.scud wrote:

<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">If you go to any serious religious/atheism debate forum and mention that movie and say you believe it you will be mocked. The information presented in the movie is backed by no evidence, no sources, no theological understanding, and most importantly, no facts. Another failed attempt at trying to undermine Christianity. </span></span>

it's not that hard to do


Notice I said reputable debate forum.

fstdt preys upon erroneous quotes from questionable people and like the bunch of angry 13 year olds they are, use no sense and try to lump all of Christianity into some wacked out quote. If you use fstdt to learn about Christianity then I don't even know what to say.


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