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sounds like fun..... to a point. id get mad and shoot them at point blank range. that could be cuz i have an extramly short fuse though. never heard of meleeing in paintball. as for ur gun i hav e no help, im in the same boat ur in.
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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by Spartanz Halo Spartanz Halo wrote:

We'll play anything for regular woodsball to hard core woodsball (hard core does exist right? My friend said that's where meleeing is legal).


Of course. When I play hard core I carry a 24" stainless steel SBS Snipernator barrel in a sheath across my back for use when barrel tagging.  (The stainless steel resists bending during tags and I have grip tape on the end so I don't lose it when things get exciting.  I'm working on a handguard but have yet to come up with a way to attach it that doesn't require drilling into the barrel.  I'm considering a modified apex adapter for this project.)  I also have a bandoleer on the front of the harness that holds three easily accessible stock 98 barrels for tags at ranges from beyond touching distance to approximately 18 feet.  (The weight distribution of 98 barrels makes them fly better than stock A5/X7 barrels.)










Seriously now, legal meleeing in paintball?  Riiiiiiiiiight!?

Edited:  Needed more "i"s in "right.

OOOOOWWWWWW. That'll leave a big red mark.

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No it's not. He's had this thing for quite some time. He might have some upgrades on it already. I would switch to HPA/N2 but no place around here refills that so that's a big problem. For the 98  I'll end up putting an e grip/ RT on it along with a cyclone. As for meleeing he ment everything for a simple barrel tag to hitting them as hard as you possibly can with your C02 bottle and getting into fights. At least that's what he said. I think I'll use my 12" Tippy stock barrel for barrel tagging.

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Is it the autococker trilogy tactical?  I just bought one for half that price and he might have too.  He may just be trying to make some $$ off of it.  The stock barrel isnt too great on it but the J&J is beautiful.  It silences it even more and is extremely accurate.  You may also just want to use the cash for the 98.  It really depends on what kind of money you are looking to spend at this time.  the autococker will also suck up some funds since you will end up getting a new barrel, a delrin bolt, and you will need HPA/N2.  I havent heard good stories with cockers and CO2.  I love the cocker though. 

Now to the 98.  Are you looking at going and getting the e grip on it or an RT to speed it up?  Personally I love the cyclone and it will give you plenty of speed unless you need to shoot faster than 15-25 bps (25 after you upgrade the internals).  As for the stock on it it is all about prefference.  If you have a friend that has one try borrowing it for a game or 2 and this will help you decide whether or not you want to actually buy one.  If not I recomend the RVA.  You can still get milsim look without a stock.  The rocket cocker is also a nice upgrade to seal the bolt up a little bit more. 

Good luck on the build and let us know if you have any other questions.  Also by melee did you mean dead manning/barrel tapping.  I know some people give a 10ft radius where you are supposed to say dead man instead of shooting and some places its shoot to kill no matter what.  I have never heard of it referred to as meleeing.

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Originally posted by Ilford Rule Ilford Rule wrote:

Mack, your barrel strategy interests me. I always prefer to melee using my 68/45, though that 24" Snipernator barrel is intriguing. I think I'll buy two and tape them together, 48" barrel must be quite accurate. Man, that'll make me 7eh 1337357 5n1pz0rz on the field!



Actually, you were supposed to visualize me swinging it (the Snipernator) like a mad Scotsman from the movie Braveheart.

Edited Note Referencing Above Statement:  When doing said visualization it is best to leave out the naked and painted blue part in order to avoid traumatic psychological distress.

Originally posted by Ilford Rule Ilford Rule wrote:


Don't hit people with any paintball gear other than the paintballs themselves... just don't.


Good advice.


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Yeah I had a feeling he lied about that too. All these lies are getting annoying. He wants to sell me his autococker trilly for $82. It's pretty accurate and silent. Would tis be a good deal? I've used it before and liked how silent it was and that the gravity feed hopper could actually keep up with how fast I'm shooting. It's got a 1.5 trigger that all you got to do is tap it and it'll fire. He might have a LPK on it and all it's been doing is sitting in his room just waiting for someone to play with it. The stock barrel he's got on it is really accurate. It's in mint condition, no scratches, dents, or broken parts. He's also going to throw in any extra parts/ tools that he can find and can fix it for me if anything goes wrong. All this for $82. Should I get it? I decided to not get a Cyborg just yet and put it off for a littel while longer. I'll send pics and stats ASAP. 
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Mack, your barrel strategy interests me. I always prefer to melee using my 68/45, though that 24" Snipernator barrel is intriguing. I think I'll buy two and tape them together, 48" barrel must be quite accurate. Man, that'll make me 7eh 1337357 5n1pz0rz on the field!

Spartanz Halo: What does hard core mean to you? There is no classification of competitive paintball known as hard core woodsball. It could be interpreted to mean people who play very seriously. However, meleeing is NEVER allowed in paintball. Barrel tagging is usually, but meleeing is not. Otherwise, injury rates would be... well... way too high.
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Originally posted by Spartanz Halo Spartanz Halo wrote:

We'll play anything for regular woodsball to hard core woodsball (hard core does exist right? My friend said that's where meleeing is legal).


Of course. When I play hard core I carry a 24" stainless steel SBS Snipernator barrel in a sheath across my back for use when barrel tagging.  (The stainless steel resists bending during tags and I have grip tape on the end so I don't lose it when things get exciting.  I'm working on a handguard but have yet to come up with a way to attach it that doesn't require drilling into the barrel.  I'm considering a modified apex adapter for this project.)  I also have a bandoleer on the front of the harness that holds three easily accessible stock 98 barrels for tags at ranges from beyond touching distance to approximately 18 feet.  (The weight distribution of 98 barrels makes them fly better than stock A5/X7 barrels.)










Seriously now, legal meleeing in paintball?  Riiiiiiiiiight!?

Edited:  Needed more "i"s in "right.


Edited by Mack - 03 January 2008 at 4:24pm
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no adapter needed Model 98 refers to all markers of the Tippmann '98 and Triumph lines
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Oh and if I do get a J&J Ceramic do I need to get an adapter for my marker? I was just looking at them and and the ceramic was labeled for a model 98.
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This marker is what I'll be using for woodsball. It's a 98c pro ACT Digi camo with a 12" stock barrel, stock drop forward, stock Doubble trigger, and a scope I put on. That'll give you an idea on what it looks like. As I said I'll be using it for woodsball but the gun just can't keep up with how fast I'm shooting and now frequently jams. We'll play anything for regular woodsball to hard core woodsball (hard core does exist right? My friend said that's where meleeing is legal).
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Cyclones are great, if you want what it is they provide. They are a pneumatic system that uses otherwise wasted gas to cycle the loader after each shot. They have the benefit of battery-free operation over electronic loaders, however they cannot cycle quite as fast as the best electronic loaders without considerable upgrades (and even then, it may not be possible). However, the cyclone can cycle faster than 15 BPS stock, and it is fairly easy to get a cyclone over 20 BPS. This is faster than most people need to fire their marker, if their marker is capable of doing so.

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Ahhhhh... cool. Works for me. Should I get a Cyclone feeder?
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The various "backs" to barrel kits are necessary for the greatest accuracy possible as the match between paint size and bore size is what governs about 50% of the accuracy issue. The different inner diameters (I.D.) of each back to the kit means you can find the best fit for whatever paint you are using. The 2-piece part of barrel kits comes from the need to be able to swap backs with a smaller number of tips, keeping the cost down and allowing the user to select from a wide range of lengths to meet their needs.
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What's the advantage to having barrels that are 2, 3, or kit pieces?
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Stocks are a matter of personal preference.  I've used a solid stock, a collapsible and a folding.  I hated the solid stock and the collapsible was annoying, but I really like the JCS folding stock I have on one of my markers.  (It feels more solid than the collapsible, yet can be moved completely out of the way to the side of the marker.  The only drawback is that with it folded to the side it interferes with dropping the hopper for squeegeeing.)

If you use a stock, you also have to consider what you will do with your tank.  I run CO2 off of an x-chamber screwed into the vertical adapter on the 98C that is stock equipped and that works fine for me because I detest remote lines.  A tank will sometimes get in the way if mounted to a standard ASA while using a stock.  Additionally, a tank at this location defeats the purpose of collapsible/folding stocks.

You do have several tank mounting options:

  • Remote line.
  • Reverse mount the tank (Hawaiian style).
  • Vertical adapter (with or without x-chamber).
Regarding the hopper question:  If you have the stock non-electric hopper that came with it, there is no reason to buy another gravity fed hopper.  If you don't, you could use the VL quantum, but the noise might be annoying.  (That is the one that runs continuously I believe.)

If you decide to get a better hopper, consider getting one that would do double duty (speedball and woodsball).  I am very fond of the ricochet hoppers.  (The fact that the switch is tripped and the balls are stirred practically every time the trigger is pulled means they actually feed quite well for cheaper low-tech electric hoppers.) However, if you plan on eventually upgrading your Tippmann to a "super-gun" you may want to avoid purchasing a hopper that would require later upgrading/replacement. 

The hopper question is best answered after you determine future firepower upgrades.
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I've been looking at the upgrades for my marker on this website and wanted to know if i should get a stock for it. I'll use the VL for speedball but I'm going to need another nonelectric hopper for woodsball. Can I really go wrong when buying a nonelectric hopper?

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Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Originally posted by Spartanz Halo Spartanz Halo wrote:

Yeah. Should I keep that scope on it?

If you're on a huge tract of land, you can keep the scope for scouting and such if you like it.

The only real use I've ever found for scopes on paintball markers.
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Originally posted by Spartanz Halo Spartanz Halo wrote:

Yeah. Should I keep that scope on it? It really doesn't help much except for scouting the land. It's small and not very noticible and black. It's power is 4X15. Oh and what's a good hopper for this gun? I currently have the stock hopper it comes with and one of my friends gave me an electric VL Quantum, both hold 200 balls.

If you're on a huge tract of land, you can keep the scope for scouting and such if you like it. Otherwise, get rid of it if it gets annoying or in your way. As for hoppers, anything is fine for you now since its stock. Try the VL if you want for now, or just use the stock gravity hopper.

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Unless you go electronic, any electric hopper will do.

Scope is up to you.

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