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Originally posted by DzXs DzXs wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Personally, I find the trebuchet to be superior to the oldschool catapult.


it is, also because age of empires II says so


In AOE2 both have their merits.
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AOE (all of them) ftw...
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AOE (all of them) ftw...


Archers wit speed building cheat FTW
Que pasa?


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This went off topic in no time...
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This went off topic in no time...


what do you expect, os's post original post went over the heads of 90% of this forum...
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Originally posted by tippmannfreak tippmannfreak wrote:

Originally posted by .357 Magnum .357 Magnum wrote:

This went off topic in no time...


what do you expect, os's post original post went over the heads of 90% of this forum...
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Originally posted by tippmannfreak tippmannfreak wrote:

Originally posted by .357 Magnum .357 Magnum wrote:

This went off topic in no time...


what do you expect, os's post original post went over the heads of 90% of this forum...


No, I just think noone knows what he tried to accomplish with his post.

He came in posted tat Iran is more than likely making WMD's because of the missile they have just engineered is useless for anything less, like we are the ones that believed them.

Was he trying to get a debate? I think that what he said is fairly obvios
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You all have no idea.
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OS loves to try and stir trouble.  BACK TO MEDIEVAL SIEGE TACTICS
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How am I stirring trouble. Iran and the Parrot Press state they have no nuclear program, the majority of the nation believes Bush is "lieing" about Irans nuke program, and the Iranians test fire a nuclear capable balistic missile on the same day as a "peace conference" on the middle east. Strange logic there, millions for a missile that is only financially and militarily worth it if it carries a WMD class warhead.   
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Bush is a bad man.  Quit defending him.
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How are you not stirring the pot, come on now. You know how these kinds of issues go on the forum...
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Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

so they can hit israel. and we can make them a parking lot afterwards.

you think they realize, if they nuke israel, that radiation could possibly destroy jerusalem?
Theyd hit more then that, alot of modern bombs have the cabability of up to 250+ miles (or so im told). Went to a conference on modern nuclear weapons the other day, it was pretty interesting and scary at the same time. The expert who did most of the talking claimed if dc or Pittsburg were to be hit with anything the likes of what the soviets had that anything and anyone in a 280 mile radius would be killed/destroyed. (in other words half of my state would be screwed. )
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Yea, I believe we (humans) will end the world/our existence with nukes some day. Do you have any nuclear power plants by you? I hear the ones in Michigan have like a 50 mile kill zone basically, but I actually live far enough away that the major part wouldn't hit me.
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Originally posted by battlefreak battlefreak wrote:

Originally posted by Kristofer Kristofer wrote:

so they can hit israel. and we can make them a parking lot afterwards.

you think they realize, if they nuke israel, that radiation could possibly destroy jerusalem?
Theyd hit more then that, alot of modern bombs have the cabability of up to 250+ miles (or so im told). Went to a conference on modern nuclear weapons the other day, it was pretty interesting and scary at the same time. The expert who did most of the talking claimed if dc or Pittsburg were to be hit with anything the likes of what the soviets had that anything and anyone in a 280 mile radius would be killed/destroyed. (in other words half of my state would be screwed. )


Nonsense. The most powerful nukes were developed in the 50s and 60s. At that time delivery systems were crap, and huge yields were necessary to make sure that you took out what you wanted tot ake out. Today nukes can be accurate to within about the size of your house, and consequently the yields are far, far smaller. Modern nuclear doctrine rarely involves splashing whole cities- rather, nukes would be targeted on military, communications, and transportation facilities.

Anyone who worries seriously about nuclear attack today is deluded. Nobody capable of hitting North America with a nuke would be dumb enough to do it. The only plausible nuclear threat in the forseeable future would be if extremists were to steal or purchase a weapon- and then it would necessarily be one of the very small ones, probably a tactical warhead. Of course, that would still gut the downtown of any major city...
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Soviet styled nuclear weapons used a "dirtier" form of uranium or plutonium, with a halflife in the 25,000 year range. The actual burst radius of a mid sized airburst would be intantainious lethal in the 5km center radius, 5-25km radius would be 50-75%, 25km and out 20-50% lethal. Radiation levels will be lethal for up to 25years depending on the density of radiated material. Ground bursts are less lethal, but more "fallout" of debris thrown up in the blast.
Now the larger the yield, the larger the lethality radius.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Soviet styled nuclear weapons used a "dirtier" form of uranium or plutonium, with a halflife in the 25,000 year range. The actual burst radius of a mid sized airburst would be intantainious lethal in the 5km center radius, 5-25km radius would be 50-75%, 25km and out 20-50% lethal. Radiation levels will be lethal for up to 25years depending on the density of radiated material. Ground bursts are less lethal, but more "fallout" of debris thrown up in the blast.
Now the larger the yield, the larger the lethality radius.


The Russians are down to only 180 SS-18 launchers, the only weapon they have with a yield over 1 megaton- and even those have sleectable yields of either 750KT or 20MT. The Chinese may have weapons of up to 3MT.

Neither Russia or China is stupid enough to use its nukes. Pakistan's nukes are worrying, but they're not even suspected to have exceeded 40KT yield yet, so their nukes are still babies.

Nukes are an almost insignificant threat in today's world. Far greater potential threats exist.
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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Personally, I find the trebuchet to be superior to the oldschool catapult.
They're huge and clumsy though. It's a lot easier to cart around five catapults than it is one trebuchet.
Well, if we're going to talk ease of transport, why not just go real old school and break out the plague rats?


You run the risk of killing your own troops with plague rats.  The Trebuchet has so much more range than the catapult too.


So load the rats on the trebuchet and call it a ratapult.


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I should tune up the three foot tall treb I built a few years ago. I never really messed with it enough to determine the maximum range.

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