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Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:



either way, the insurgents/terrorists obviously don't like us...so how much worse do you think it could be if they came here instead of us going there?

That's a bit over the top. The world is the battlefield now, so fighting terrorists in another country does not effect them coming into our country. It's already been shown that our borders are still easy to cross, the war in Iraq wouldn't deter a terrorist from coming here and attacking a civilian target.

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have fun supporting isreal


You been sniffing the zyklon B again Fritz?
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?


Was there a reason? Yes

Still a reason? Probably not.

Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.


if there was a reason to be there then thats why we're there...we're still there because even though the main objective might be completed, we need to stay there to ensure it remains balanced.
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figured it would only be amatter of time before it got to this.  i expected it sooner though
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Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?


Was there a reason? Yes

Still a reason? Probably not.

Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.


if there was a reason to be there then thats why we're there...we're still there because even though the main objective might be completed, we need to stay there to ensure it remains balanced.


Stay there to keep it balanced?

We can't even protect our own borders.
Que pasa?


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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?


Was there a reason? Yes

Still a reason? Probably not.

Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.


So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.

The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.

40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.

The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.

Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.

Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?


Was there a reason? Yes

Still a reason? Probably not.

Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.


So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.

The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.

40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.

The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.

Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.

Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.


I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.

I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading.
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading. [/QUOTE]

Are you going to take your internetz and go home now?
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Good luck, stay safe. Don't do anything stupid.
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?


Was there a reason? Yes

Still a reason? Probably not.

Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.


So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.

The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.

40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.

The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.

Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.

Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.


I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.

I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading.


...So if I get this right, you concede that you know nothing about what you're talking about, yet insist on maintaining your opinion anyway?


Uh, OK I guess. At least I admire your honesty.
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I can tell you I much rather the fighting stay over there. 
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?


Was there a reason? Yes

Still a reason? Probably not.

Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.


So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.

The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.

40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.

The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.

Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.

Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.


I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.

I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading.


...So if I get this right, you concede that you know nothing about what you're talking about, yet insist on maintaining your opinion anyway?


Uh, OK I guess. At least I admire your honesty.



Pretty much.


And Johnnyhopper?
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Originally posted by .357 Magnum .357 Magnum wrote:

I can tell you I much rather the fighting stay over there. 


We're not fighting in Afghanistan to keep the fighting over there, nor is the war in Iraq to keep war out of America. You're deluded if you think that a military conflict over there will prevent terrorist action at home. Ask Britain, Australia, or Spain about that.
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you're right, we do have a problem with our borders. that doesnt mean we ignore other problems that exist
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Never said anything about a reason, was just saying I am glad there isn't a war going on in my country.
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i was referring to jmacs post about us being overseas but not taking care of our borders
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Originally posted by rednekk98 rednekk98 wrote:

No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
Was there a reason? YesStill a reason? Probably not.Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.
So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.
I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading.
...So if I get this right, you concede that you know nothing about what you're talking about, yet insist on maintaining your opinion anyway?Uh, OK I guess. At least I admire your honesty.
Pretty much.And Johnnyhopper?



Umm what?

I was impressed in a similar way. Usually when someone shows up at a gun fight with a q-tip, they run away. Not you though :)
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LOL... 'Showing up at a gunfight with a q-tip'. That's classic.
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what  movie had the line "leave it to a wop to bring a knife to a gun fight"?
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